Num 3 Legume Fallow

[Eric68]

I'm a little late to the party with SFI, so playing catch up! NUM3 legume fallow if drilled this March/April 2024 will have to stay in the ground until Auguest 2025 to meet its aims?

 

[benny6910]

No I don’t think so, I’m using it this spring and hopefully sow wheat this autumn into it.

 

[DieselRob]

No I don’t think so, I’m using it this spring and hopefully sow wheat this autumn into it.

Same here

 

[snipe]

once the summer months are over(beginning of September)would the right mix of plants make good forage for baling?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

once the summer months are over(beginning of September)would the right mix of plants make good forage for baling?

Go for the grass options if you want to cut it , but the Legumes will be stemmy and hard so it won't be the best

 

[bobk]

Go for the grass options if you want to cut it , but the Legumes will be stemmy and hard so it won't be the best

You can't have grass in NUM3

 

[DieselRob]

You can't have grass in NUM3

 

[bobk]

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I meant ryegrass

 

[DieselRob]

I meant ryegrass

It doesn’t specify that

 

[bobk]

It doesn’t specify that

What doesn't

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I meant ryegrass

I does not say you can't and most companies offer one with Ryegrass

 

[DieselRob]

What doesn't

The SFI guidance handbook?

 

[bobk]

I does not say you can't and most companies offer one with Ryegrass

You can't cut it so why put it in

 

[Derrick Hughes]

You can't cut it so why put it in

• cut it, to prevent blackgrass from setting seed or to control other annual grass weeds

 

[DieselRob]

You can't cut it so why put it in

They’re talking about cutting it at the point of termination which you can do, my intention is to graze it early autumn then drill with wheat, I might even leave the legumes to grow on a bit as well post drilling

 

[Derrick Hughes]

They’re talking about cutting it at the point of termination which you can do, my intention is to graze it early autumn then drill with wheat, I might even leave the legumes to grow on a bit as well post drilling

When does blackgrass seed ,it says cut to prevent blackgrass seeding

 

[bobk]

• cut it, to prevent blackgrass from setting seed or to control other annual grass weeds

Top it yes , conserve it no

 

[DieselRob]

once the summer months are over(beginning of September)would the right mix of plants make good forage for baling?

When does blackgrass seed ,it says cut to prevent blackgrass seeding

As above, @snipe asked about cutting in September, long after any BG will have seeded and shed

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Top it yes , conserve it no

It says cut not top

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It says cut not top

Maintaining established areas
Once the area is established, you need to maintain it by managing it in a way that could reasonably be expected to achieve this action’s aim (described above).

NUM3 allows you to cut the area to prevent blackgrass from setting seed or to control other annual grass weeds.

During the first spring and summer after sowing, you can:

start cutting as soon as blackgrass starts to produce seed heads

do follow up cuts as necessary to remove further seed heads

During the second year after sowing, you can control blackgrass by cutting between March and mid- June-May and then leave the area uncut for a period of at least around 5 weeks until early August.  This will help to: