red tractor sugar beet

graham mc

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Im not a grower but whats the point of red tractor in sugar when theres not a hope of tracing anything back to the original grower. Wheat intake muddys the water with traceability but surely this is on another level making it impossible????
 

carbonfibre farmer

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i thought 'dogging in the brecks' was his fave :scratchhead:
To stray massively off topic....

I thought that was your favourite....and Attlebourgh news agents.......🤐🤷‍♂️🤪

Least your beet arn't RT spin 👍 Mind they're fodder beet IIRC?

Anyway. With how benevolent British Sugar are to the growers, and current corn prices. We'll have to see if there is any sugar beet to grow in 3years.

RT sticking their noses into and getting their tentacles into another crop without providing a benefit that's quantifiable but making it mandatory if you want to grow them and sell them as sugar (to a monopoly).

Actually that's a nice little circle.
You can't sell sugar beet to anyone else for sugar and you MUST be RT assured to do so. Nice.
 

alomy75

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Im not a grower but whats the point of red tractor in sugar when theres not a hope of tracing anything back to the original grower. Wheat intake muddys the water with traceability but surely this is on another level making it impossible????
I completely agree but it’s no worse than wheat; you need valid assurance to get to tip and once you’re in it’s lost with everyone else’s. Beet is arguably ‘safer’ than wheat because you can grow/sell wheat non-assured but not beet.
 

tullah

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Linconshire
With BS struggling to find growers perhaps they'll wave the requirement to be assured. I don't know why they brought it in anyway as you just drill it and spray it. What's that got to do with assurance and rats in the clamp.
 

DrWazzock

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Lincolnshire
At least BS don't require a passport. Which begs the question as to why grain merchants need passports. My RT number is printed on the grain merchants contract for the loads and can be checked online, just as they did for my cattle, even when I included a sticker on the livestock entry form.
The grain passport does have a section asking if you have lathered it in insecticide in your store, but surely that is a conversation to have with the merchant before selling, not something that should come to light when the driver handsover the passport at the receiving end and its all a bit late.
 
At least BS don't require a passport. Which begs the question as to why grain merchants need passports. My RT number is printed on the grain merchants contract for the loads and can be checked online, just as they did for my cattle, even when I included a sticker on the livestock entry form.
The grain passport does have a section asking if you have lathered it in insecticide in your store, but surely that is a conversation to have with the merchant before selling, not something that should come to light when the driver handsover the passport at the receiving end and its all a bit late.

Too many loads involved and not enough time. The hauliers alone would tell them to stick it if they tried to impose passports.
 

robbie

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I wonder how the labeling of red tractor sugar works??? Just last year BS said they were having to import raw sugar because of the diabolical harvest in this country. Is it like cereals where our RT stuff gets mixed up with the imported stuff and somehow when it comes out of the other end it's all magically got the logo on the bag????
 

robbie

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there you go boasting again 😁 ......though i admit it's a free country so however you how your 'hold' your 'valued input' is fine🤣🤣

i'm feeling better BTW😁
I've got your lurgy now spinney🤦
Beachams and half a bottle of single malt helped last night but having the alarm go off at 4.15 this AM to load pigs didn't😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I'm sure I caught it from reading your poxy sheepy thread!
 

solo

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worcestershire
Going back to the op. The samples are taken at intake but how long they would be retained for is debatable. It used to be about a wheel barrow full in the basket which was then sent to the lab to test for dirt%, top% and sugar content. Whether they take small samples for residue testing now I don’t know. They used to profess organic beet at Newark for a week of the season which meant the factory had to be cleaned down prior to processing. The final year I cleaned beet for this job was when the organic syrup got contaminated by a wrong valve being opened by mistake allegedly, so the whole production run was unable to fulfill the organic accreditation.
 

robbie

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I wonder how RT fits in with BS tipping surplus granulated sugar in farm stores.
Ive been asked in the past to store sugar in my grain store and when I said it was still full I was asked if I had anywhere else sugar could be tipped.
A friend regularly stores it for them via a 3rd party and he's never been asked for QA numbers.
How come grain can only be stored in RT assured sheds yet RT sugar or sugar from RT beet can be put anywhere either on farms or commercial storage.🤷
 

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