Sorry if this has already been discussed. We went to a seminar in the summer with our vets who told us about the upcoming sheep attestation and small farm productivity grant for worms in sheep. We were advised to apply for this and double it up with the sheep attestation. The grant would cover the cost of the attestation and FEC experiment with a nice little sum left over. I believe the grant is around £460? Well I’ve just had the vets bill……… £458 plus the upcoming fee for the second egg count. Which will be another £48 plus vat. This means I’ll actually be around £50 out of pocket. Is that correct? Should I be questioning it? Or is it a scam where they’ve all had my trousers down??
Sheep attestation
- Thread starter MCD74
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You are correct its just another rip off scam by those who should know better but they dont , i blame the parents .
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Animal Health and Welfare signup.
Is anyone having problems signing up to this? It was recommended by my vet. But on trying to sign up it appears my SBI number will not link up with my CPH number!!. RPA are trying to sort it out. All to do with the SFI job!!. WB
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Vet Attestations and a "VAN"
Just picked up a catalogue from my local market for this Fridays store cattle and sheep sale,and noticed on the back,all sellers have to have a "VAN" by December 13th. The catalogue always has a column for "FA" or just left blank if the farm is not. Why cant we now just have "VA" instead of FA...
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- N.Lincs
Call me a cynic, but as soon as the vets realised what the eligible payment was, their fees would automatically reflect the same.
- Location
- Cheshire
I’ve said it before on here and I’ll say it again. Some of you have some proper crooked vets. My certificate cost £26 from our vets, and they laminated it at that too.
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- N.Lincs
Sadly, some of us have no choice ☹
I'd gladly switch to yours if you can persuade them to open a branch round here.
but ours never used to be like it.
I used to have nothing but respect for all our vets and be in awe of them tbh, now they just seem on the make.
for a start why do they need such fancy cars to drive around in? when i started out and was introduced business wise to the same practice as Dad and Grandad had used , the main vet had a Renault 5 ,and wore an old worn out barbour jacket , He was the best Sheep vet i have ever known.
a conversation with him or any of the others for that matter made you feel a bit happier even if the ewe lamb or pig did die they seemed to have a calming influence over livestock farming . certainly helped in more ways than one.
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Well I’ve definitely been looking at options today. Someone said to me I should have asked how much before. But your vets your vet. It’s not like getting quotes off builders. I just assumed it would be a flat rate for everyone. What’s worse they did my uncle the same afternoon (next door farm) no discount for doubling up. His bill is the same so that’s literally £1000 for an afternoons paper pushing with no travelling involved!
- Location
- Cheshire
Pricing was going that way here a few years ago. One of the corporates bought our old vet practise out (and they weren’t cheap to start with)
2 of the best vets there fell out with the management and set up their own practise (along with a rival corporate as a third partner) right in the middle of the same area. And they slashed costs dramatically. The other practise have had to sharpen up since but it did them no favours when a lot of folk realised just how far we’d been getting ripped for the previous few years
2 of the best vets there fell out with the management and set up their own practise (along with a rival corporate as a third partner) right in the middle of the same area. And they slashed costs dramatically. The other practise have had to sharpen up since but it did them no favours when a lot of folk realised just how far we’d been getting ripped for the previous few years
- Location
- Devon
Welcome to agricultural support.
You should now be very grateful for the £508 worth of service you got for £50 and applaud the government for it's support.
There are very few 'support payments' which actually support farming.
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- South Pennines ol14
I ordered some alamycin and was told , we haven’t seen you for 12 months your due a visit, they conveniently forgot they castrated a bull last June , but anyway, appointment surly made I asked about the attestation
Vet turned up , cows were in for tb test so he said “ they look well” asked about sheep , there were 200 wandering up the hill
All fine see you later , not had the bill yet but generally they are pretty good
Vet turned up , cows were in for tb test so he said “ they look well” asked about sheep , there were 200 wandering up the hill
All fine see you later , not had the bill yet but generally they are pretty good
- Location
- Mendips Somerset
yes this is finding the vets out , most around here have been about £260 plus last worm test cost , but neighbour was charged over £700 , cue change in vet practice , i would query it , at least find out what the locals paid other vets in area
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- N.Lincs
You have to ask the question, is that a bad thing?
You've managed a year without needing any antibiotics - a thing we're told we should be cutting down on.
The whole thing then becomes an oxymoron - you farm well and cut antibiotic use, thus meeting a government aspiration, so don't need a vet but they can't issue a VAN, which has become a government requirement, because you've managed to meet a government aspiration.
The world's gone mad, issuing regulation after regulation until it finally disappears up it's own ar$ehole.
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- South Pennines ol14
We have used antibiotics, to be honest not much , I think off the top of my head we had two alamycin and one zactran They have to see us once a year whether we need anything or not was my understanding
But I get what your saying and agree with you
Change your vets...
The necessary FEC is a pooled sample with a retest after treatment to see if the wormer has worked
Via Biobest this is £90 all in
£346 left for paying a vet and any other bloods required
You vet is interpreting the rules incorrectly or just ripping you off
The necessary FEC is a pooled sample with a retest after treatment to see if the wormer has worked
Via Biobest this is £90 all in
£346 left for paying a vet and any other bloods required
You vet is interpreting the rules incorrectly or just ripping you off
edn
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- Location
- Oxfordshire/Gloucestershire
I guess it depends what you thought you'd get out of it? The funding stream is designed solely to pay for the vet's time/worming/bloods etc. so there shouldn't be any money left over.
I had a conversation with Defra about this last week pointed out that the £90 Biobest tests could be £30 from MVFs. I also got my attestation off the back of the farm visit from the welfare grant. Costing me £25 but as the vet visit was in July it is back dated so £25 for 6 months!
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
The point of the VAN is that the EU want to see that a vet has been on farm at least annually, so that they can attest that there are no infectious diseases. It is a requirement for any part of the carcass to be exported to EU markets, nothing to do with our government.
Separately, the vet's governing body requires that the vet actually sees your stock at least annually, as they can only legally prescribe drugs to animals that are 'under their care'. To be fair, an annual visit is a pretty relaxed interpretation of either requirement.
