Should jcb start making conventional tractors?

Do you think jcb should design and build conventional 100-250hp tractors?
what they need to build is a 120 hp 7610 ford like tractor with a simple gearbox with clutchless reverser ,air con ,forward opening doors like old renaults ,for the stockmens loader tractor ,and run around jobs ,
And yes build some premium tractors why not , valtra air suspension ,front axle , jd 8.1 ltr engine , fendt vario ,or jd power quad box , claas / renault cab ,greenstar guidance , old mf 3000 auto tronic for hydraulics ,still one of best with switch up and down ,and the dial for tweeking when ploughing .
 

Scribus

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It's a saturated market and they'd want to offer something that others don't. I should think they have the plans on a top of shelf somewhere which they dust down every now and then then hastily shove them back again.
 
Do you think jcb should design and build conventional 100-250hp tractors?
Why bother ? Plenty of conventional ones to chose from, even with same engine and same type of transmission. JCB have a unique machine, and to go conventional would be a reverse step.
When the Fastrac came out, everyone else dismissed suspension as they said you couldn’t transmit the power to the ground. But they nearly all offer front axle suspension now.
 

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
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Co antrim
Dont think ye could get all round suspension in a tractor in conventional guise cause the back axle has to be seperate unit with chassis holdin it all together. Think jcb is doin just fine and find it hard to believe other tractor makers hasnt copied this design as an alternative. Also think the new jcb has the best engine tranny combo out there
 

Scribus

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Central Atlantic
Dont think ye could get all round suspension in a tractor in conventional guise cause the back axle has to be seperate unit with chassis holdin it all together. Think jcb is doin just fine and find it hard to believe other tractor makers hasnt copied this design as an alternative. Also think the new jcb has the best engine tranny combo out there

They all had the opportunity when Trantor were dragging their design idea around the manufacturers in the 70's. Did they approach JCB? I've no idea, but the Trantor was as much a design philosophy based on a master's thesis by Stuart Taylor as it was a final product. I should think JCB had a copy when they were thinking about the Fastrac.
 

Sheep

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Northern Ireland
what they need to build is a 120 hp 7610 ford like tractor with a simple gearbox with clutchless reverser ,air con ,forward opening doors like old renaults ,for the stockmens loader tractor ,and run around jobs ,
And yes build some premium tractors why not , valtra air suspension ,front axle , jd 8.1 ltr engine , fendt vario ,or jd power quad box , claas / renault cab ,greenstar guidance , old mf 3000 auto tronic for hydraulics ,still one of best with switch up and down ,and the dial for tweeking when ploughing .

Christ that sounds like hardship start to finish.
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
A main supplier to JCB wasn’t keen on them making conventional tractors it’s why the 7000 ceased production even though they weren’t using that gearbox in them
Don't think they sold many either.

The gearbox was dreaded P-tronic fitted to 3230 also as far as i remember.

I know a couple people that run them and really like them. Massive external brakes!
 

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