casemx 270
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- Location
- East midlands
Can I legally use Hatra and Axial in the same growing season ? Thanks
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Spray sequence
- Thread starter casemx 270
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Yes. Different classes.
wanton dwarf
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deleted user 837354
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Mode of action is different from memory.
Broadway star will do some BLWs into the bargain. Axial has a narrow weed spectrum.
Broadway star will do some BLWs into the bargain. Axial has a narrow weed spectrum.
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Hatra is 2 SUs, axial is pinoxaden an ACCase. It depends on what weeds you are planning on. Hatra may restrict any further use of SUs in wheat. It depends if you are planning more weed sprays or not.
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Autumn or spring applied hatra?
casemx 270
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- Location
- East midlands
Spring application
APJ
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- Location
- West Midlands(Shropshire borders)
If using hatra first can’t see the need for an application of axil, hatra would sort wild oats and grasses out and some blw, it would be fair spend applying both!
wanton dwarf
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APJ
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- Location
- West Midlands(Shropshire borders)
Yes it is, in the west it works well yet! We don’t use it often try to keep grassweed problems to a minimum here.
wanton dwarf
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I'm left with Axial & Broadway Star .. trying Broadway Star using a Nap Sack at the moment to see if it actually works
Would like to do some more today but wondering if the cold spell is a good or bad thing ? Should I wait till Monday ? Not as though this kind of thing is put on the labels.
deleted user 837354
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I'm left with Axial & Broadway Star .. trying Broadway Star using a Nap Sack at the moment to see if it actually works
Would like to do some more today but wondering if the cold spell is a good or bad thing ? Should I wait till Monday ? Not as though this kind of thing is put on the labels.
What are you trying to control?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I applied a similar product to hates a week ago. In another week I'll be rolling the wheat. If there is any ryegrass that escapes; germinates late etc then I will use sword or axial. This is not resistant ryegrass btw. I chose the hatra as previously there was bg. There is no history of Atlantis use, and the land has come out if grass so I mainly targetted ryegrass with the hope any bg would be done too. It's got four more arable years ahead now so will be vigorously rogued.
wanton dwarf
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Italian Ryegrass.
Ploughing combined with pre emergance has worked quite well on the majority of the fields. However, where the old man (He gets the blame !) has failed to bury the trash - we've got a failure to control the Ryegrass.
Similar problem on a field the same person decided not to plough - I shall have to wait until harvest before I can truely say "I told you so" concerning ploughing. However, being a smart alec doesn't help with the weeds.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
BTW Atlantis did nothing post emergence as I told the argonamist it would - which again doesn't help unfortunately.
solo
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- Location
- worcestershire
Best leave the sprays alone until the temperature fluctuations settle down. Chemicals will work better on actively growing weeds not under stress.
wanton dwarf
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That's sort of what I was thinking .. but also tempered with the idea that if the plant absorbs the chemical over the next few days and then has a growth spurt on Monday .. will that tip the balance on the Metabalism of the chemical ?
solo
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- Location
- worcestershire
Plants won’t absorb anywhere near as well when shut down for stress. The chemicals may still work but less efficiently. The crop and the weeds will not race away until the soil is moist and warm so no rush just now. Soil temperatures only rise slowly.