Thoughts on 3D printed or Lab grown meats?

[GeorgeC1]

Read this article today

The world's first 3D-printed vegan steak is here and could hit restaurants soon

It's designed to replicate the texture, juiciness and fat distribution of real meat.

metro.co.uk

3D printed foods were inevitable but as they used Plant Proteins for those, couldn't farmers adapt to it?

 

[sjt01]

How much energy does it take? Will you have to fill more fields with solar panels to make it than you would the same amount of real beef from grazing?

 

[Raider112]

It looks more like a swiss roll. Be interesting to see if the list of ingredients is as long as the steak.

 

[Barleycorn]

Just reading 'Sacred Cow', https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sacred-Cow...swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1597946149&sr=8-1 They have a good section de-bunking fake meat, in terms of energy (carbon), water use, and nutrition.

 

[Exfarmer]

I prefer my food natural, cooked in my kitchen. No E numbers or any other additives and if I don’t think it fit to feed to my children or grandchildren Then I would not eat it myself. Certainly would not touch this with a barge pole!

 

[Storeman]

 

[GeorgeC1]

That's overly productive.

 

[GeorgeC1]

I prefer my food natural, cooked in my kitchen. No E numbers or any other additives and if I don’t think it fit to feed to my children or grandchildren Then I would not eat it myself. Certainly would not touch this with a barge pole!

What do you mean natural? Lab grown meats are literally the animal cells grown into the shape of the meat required.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Christ, soy and sunflower oil. Death on a plate right there. And then they follow it up by inferring cholesterol is bad for you. A-ma-zing.

 

[Storeman]

What do you mean natural? Lab grown meats are literally the animal cells grown into the shape of the meat required.

Oh come on. You're not seriously trying to suggest that lab grown meats are natural, as they use animal cells?
Really?

 

[bitwrx]

How much energy does it take? Will you have to fill more fields with solar panels to make it than you would the same amount of real beef from grazing?

How much energy - or carbon, or the lives of exploited miners in poor faraway countries - is embodied in those solar panels? And the 3d printing machines, and the factories they're in, etc, etc etc.

We have perfectly good additive manufacturing devices for meat already. They're called livestock, and to a lesser extent, wild game. And we already have solar panels to fuel them; it's called grass.

I see no problem that synthetic meat solves, without creating a hundred more. But that's humans for ya. We just think we're so bloody clever, we just need to invent one more machine to fix the last problem we created...

 

[GeorgeC1]

Oh come on. You're not seriously trying to suggest that lab grown meats are natural, as they use animal cells?
Really?

I asked a question about what people consider natural, seems pefectly valid question to me imo.

I like eating meat, I like my Sirloins and Chicken, but if I had to choose between a lab grown steak or one from a butchers if they taste the same with same price I would choose the Lab grown as it doesn't involve slaughter, if I can get meat without putting them down, who would say no to that? imo I imagine most people would, especially if it becomes cheaper.

 

[Storeman]

That's overly productive.

It may well be, for you anyway.

 

[egbert]

Read this article today

The world's first 3D-printed vegan steak is here and could hit restaurants soon

It's designed to replicate the texture, juiciness and fat distribution of real meat.

metro.co.uk

3D printed foods were inevitable but as they used Plant Proteins for those, couldn't farmers adapt to it?

My stock and I turn sunshine, rain, and unimproved unploughable dirt into time proven rocket fuel human food.
Why the fudge would this be a better idea, or viable?

I recall I've asked you before George...why come on this forum?
Do you get your jollies from picking fights?

I understand mental health services are under tremendous pressure, but surely you could find some help somewhere? The church perhaps?

 

[GeorgeC1]

My stock and I turn sunshine, rain, and unimproved unploughable dirt into time proven rocket fuel human food.
Why the fudge would this be a better idea, or viable?

I recall I've asked you before George...why come on this forum?
Do you get your jollies from picking fights?

I understand mental health services are under tremendous pressure, but surely you could find some help somewhere? The church perhaps?

I like the countryside and worked in a rural industry so popping my head in, also because I can

 

[Storeman]

I asked a question about what people consider natural, seems pefectly valid question to me imo.

I like eating meat, I like my Sirloins and Chicken, but if I had to choose between a lab grown steak or one from a butchers if they taste the same with same price I would choose the Lab grown as it doesn't involve slaughter, if I can get meat without putting them down, who would say no to that? imo I imagine most people would, especially if it becomes cheaper.

Nope, you asked if farmers could adapt to 3d printed foods. Go and have a look at your own original post.

I would say no to lab grown meat for starters, as would I reckon the majority of people with any knowledge of the carbon cycle and common sense.

Seriously, what method do you believe has the larger carbon fooprint?

 

[Storeman]

I like the countryside and worked in a rural industry so popping my head in, also because I can

Ah yes, the rural industry you previously mentioned. And after that small dabble in horses, you now believe you are a leading expert on the countryside and everything farming.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

 

[GeorgeC1]

Nope, you asked if farmers could adapt to 3d printed foods. Go and have a look at your own original post.

I would say no to lab grown meat for starters, as would I reckon the majority of people with any knowledge of the carbon cycle and common sense.

Seriously, what method do you believe has the larger carbon fooprint?

The topic was indeed if farmers could work within a 3d printer dominated economy, heck bones made in 3d printers are being used in operations.

We don't know the carbon foodprint of lab made meats yet.

 

[Storeman]

The topic was indeed if farmers could work within a 3d printer dominated economy, heck bones made in 3d printers are being used in operations.

We don't know the carbon foodprint of lab made meats yet.

Many things are made with 3d printing processes. Doesn't mean we should make our food that way.

It can be pretty much guaranteed that 3d printed foods, along with all factory produced food stuffs, will have a higher carbon foot print than livestock eating grass on land that can't be used to grow arable or vegetable crops.
If you can't see or understand that, then as I said before, you're clueless.
Or a troll.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Er, where did "lab made meats" come from? The article is on about an unhealthy vegan substitute.