Would you put E7 or E9 in a fordson major?
Transmission oil.
- Thread starter BuskhillFarm
- Start date
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Gears are gears, bearings are bearings and wet clutches and brakes are little if any different in the context of the lubricant they require. Viscosity and the international performance standards required and supplied are the only things that are important.
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Why not?
The OP has an 8340, not a Fordson Major. If he has to buy two separate oils for the 2 tractors, he'll be buying it in smaller amounts, which will be more expensive. If he just buys a drum of CK4, which is probably what the Deere needs, although it will be an extravagance in the Ford, it may be cheaper over all and easier to manage.
I’ve often been told don’t use to high detergent oil in dirty old engines as it dislodges the black stuff and it block's oil strainers and filters up or cleans them to much and they start using oil
To be fair the difference between an 8340 and a fordson major engine won’t be that much other than a turbo both direct injection diesel engines without any emissions gadget,s on them.
- Location
- Darlington
While the people who seem to know are on here, 15w-30 stou for older engines / gearboxes ie; 2005 and earlier ? or 10w 30?
Barrel of WBTO from Witham or JDF from Morris.
That’s exactly what I’m hoping for. Will price up hyguard and equivalent in the morning. Deere does the lions share and don’t want it lieing down. If the 8340 does it’s a shame but not end of the world
Is the John Deere under warranty? Deere may quibble if you use none genuine oil, but it it meets the specs what is written on the drum won't make any difference
No it’s 12 years old.
Will continue buying small drums for the engines.
Just like the convenience of one trans oil and as said when swapping implements back and forth no oil contamination.
Will give them both a buzz, like likely have to find somewhere in NI so I can pick up just
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
That assumes that the old engine is actually dirty. If it has been changed every year or two or every 150 to 200 hours, whichever comes first, with modern oils it should be fine. Just because the tractor is very old, it does not follow that it has been neglected any more than a 21st Century model.
I’m a Ford man the specifications between 15w/30 suto and 10w/30 would suit or change between the 10 series and 40 series.and the same with JD 15w/30 up to the end of 50 series.like a 15w/30 would be ideal 300 series MF
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
You really only need one drum for the newer Deere. The Ford/New Holland up to the end of the TM model range will be well matched to 10W30 Super Universal which is also great for both transmissions.
Up to you of course and there are many choices available and mentioned above. Super Universal tends to be cheaper than UTTO for marketing reasons. 10W30 is a better and more expensive super universal than 15W30 and 10W30will marginally help cold starts.
Most old stuff I work on (other people,s ) is mostly pretty disgusting.i just have,nt had time yet I have to service the vets MF35 . I supplied him it over 26 years ago.he said to me one day will the tractor need a service I said when was it last done ,it hasn’t been done since I bought it 26 years ago ,i said it was getting pretty imminent
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Most old stuff I work on (other people,s ) is mostly pretty disgusting.i just have,nt had time yet I have to service the vets MF35 . I supplied him it over 26 years ago.he said to me one day will the tractor need a service I said when was it last done ,it hasn’t been done since I bought it 26 years ago ,i said it was getting pretty imminent
There are some numties about, no doubt. I contracted silage for one many years ago but banned him from hitching his tractor to any of my trailers and indeed my tractors from any of his implements. He saw nothing wrong with transmission oil being like thick white salad cream.
Later, when involved with tractor sales, he asked me one day whether he could use a stored engine oil filter. This was for his fifteen year old 290 4wd. He brought the filter out, wrapped in a dirty cloth, from a shelf in a shed and unwrapped it. Turns out it was the original factory oil filter that the tractor was fitted with when new and changed at the first 50 hour service. This much was obvious because three quarters of the filter was sprayed in MF chassis grey.
He became a bit more concerned a couple of years later when he started his MF35 up in freezing weather and sheared some drive inside due to the watery oil having frozen in the gearbox to a big white lollipop.
Mini update: got prices for oils
Hyguard £650
Millars £450
Exol £400
And 15w30 (god knows what make) £390
Vast differences.
are Millars/Exol good enough brands. Will work out as cost effective to stick to 20ls as go for hyguard in both.
and 1 stupid question, do I need to drain all oil before putting in the hyguard equivalent to the Ford or is it ok just to keep topping up?
Hyguard £650
Millars £450
Exol £400
And 15w30 (god knows what make) £390
Vast differences.
are Millars/Exol good enough brands. Will work out as cost effective to stick to 20ls as go for hyguard in both.
and 1 stupid question, do I need to drain all oil before putting in the hyguard equivalent to the Ford or is it ok just to keep topping up?
- Location
- Co antrim
Make sure the cheaper oil is virgin and not recycled before you buy it