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Lewis Hamilton is the ultimate bell end. Has he still got his middle class suburban dreadlocks?
Vegan threat? what vegan threat?
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Lewis Hamilton is the ultimate bell end. Has he still got his middle class suburban dreadlocks?
. Yes, there is. I too, cannot remember who quoted it or it's source. Guido Fowkes if that is the correct name, spelling rings a bell. The report stated that a Scandinavian hotel owners wife was a major "sponsor" contributor.
It would be good if anyone could link that post ,thanks Angus.
Hi @Angus I think @Cowgirl posted it on another thread, if we ask nicely she mite post the link on here also.
Please @Cowgirl can you post the Efa news link on here again
I posted it on face book & it got lots of likes & replies I also gave a copy to the local school but can't seem to up load it on to here?
Found it. Page eight of, " Methane: Care for Planet Earth" post number 146. Frederic Leroy and Martin Cohen link.Hi @Angus I think @Cowgirl posted it on another thread, if we ask nicely she mite post the link on here also.
Please @Cowgirl can you post the Efa news link on here again
I posted it on face book & it got lots of likes & replies I also gave a copy to the local school but can't seem to up load it on to here?
It does make interesting reading, Angus.
Certainly! (late sorry) - for anyone else who hasn't read it :https://www.efanews.eu/item/6053Hi @Angus I think @Cowgirl posted it on another thread, if we ask nicely she mite post the link on here also.
Please @Cowgirl can you post the Efa news link on here again
I posted it on face book & it got lots of likes & replies I also gave a copy to the local school but can't seem to up load it on to here?
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Greggs are planning vegan versions of all their most popular products
Steak bake, doughnuts and pasties will all have vegan options
www.walesonline.co.uk
Carefully worded as "Products ",allegedly?
michael N123
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Anyone listening to radio 2 right now on vegan positivities
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Minister rejects call to eat less meat for climate - BBC News
There have been calls for people to eat less meat to tackle climate change and reduce emissions.
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Lili
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The thick illiterates at the BBC are still using the term ' plant based diet' and the IPCC report actually recommends 'a balanced diet consisting of plant based foods such as whole grains and pulses, fruit, vegetables and animal-sourced food from sustainable systems.'Minister rejects call to eat less meat for climate - BBC News
There have been calls for people to eat less meat to tackle climate change and reduce emissions.
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Found this on a site called Unherd.
Liz Specht goes on to argue that hi-tech alternatives to meat – i.e. plant-based meat substitutes and, somewhat further into the future, vat-grown meat produced from cultured animal cells – are not subject to these inflexibilities. As well as removing slaughter from the equation (plus various other animal welfare issues), the economics of production are fundamentally different. The new technology makes ‘meat’ a truly manufactured product – conferring advantages of efficiency and agility. Specifically, these will come from dramatically shorter lead-in times; the ability to supply products in exactly the quantities required; the minimisation of low value by-products; and the capacity to develop variations of flavour, texture and nutritional content.Whether or not veganism continues to gain popularity doesn’t really matter. The alt-meat industry doesn’t require people to believe that meat is murder – cold hard economics is all it needs to kill the competition.You can already see the supermarkets preparing for what’s to come. Over the last few years the range of substitute meat products has grown in quantity and quality. Expect this trend to continue to the point when real meat becomes the niche product (and probably quite an expensive one).Is it credible that a global industry that rears and slaughters billions of animals every year could all but disappear? The answer is yes, because something very similar has happened before.Horses were once integral to our way of life – long into the industrial era they were absolutely critical to our transportation systems and other economic activities. In fact, ‘peak horse’ for the western world was the early twentieth century. Both the countryside and the cities were full of them – indeed, they were designed around their use. The sound of modernity was one endless, reverberating clip-clop.But then the internal combustion engine roared into our lives. Apart from a few specialised uses like mounted policing, horses disappeared from the cities – and in the countryside have survived mostly as pets (the less said about their culinary uses, the better). Draught horse breeds that once propelled the economy would be extinct wnot for the dedication of enthusiasts.
All this happened not out of a desire to free these noble animals from our exploitation, but because new technology and hard economics meant that it was simply too expensive and inconvenient to stick to the old ways. It’ll be the same with the species we currently rear and slaughter for their meat. Their numbers too will dwindle away. The land and buildings they currently occupy will be put to other uses.
https://unherd.com/2017/11/animals-different-us/?=refinnar
Liz Specht goes on to argue that hi-tech alternatives to meat – i.e. plant-based meat substitutes and, somewhat further into the future, vat-grown meat produced from cultured animal cells – are not subject to these inflexibilities. As well as removing slaughter from the equation (plus various other animal welfare issues), the economics of production are fundamentally different. The new technology makes ‘meat’ a truly manufactured product – conferring advantages of efficiency and agility. Specifically, these will come from dramatically shorter lead-in times; the ability to supply products in exactly the quantities required; the minimisation of low value by-products; and the capacity to develop variations of flavour, texture and nutritional content.Whether or not veganism continues to gain popularity doesn’t really matter. The alt-meat industry doesn’t require people to believe that meat is murder – cold hard economics is all it needs to kill the competition.You can already see the supermarkets preparing for what’s to come. Over the last few years the range of substitute meat products has grown in quantity and quality. Expect this trend to continue to the point when real meat becomes the niche product (and probably quite an expensive one).Is it credible that a global industry that rears and slaughters billions of animals every year could all but disappear? The answer is yes, because something very similar has happened before.Horses were once integral to our way of life – long into the industrial era they were absolutely critical to our transportation systems and other economic activities. In fact, ‘peak horse’ for the western world was the early twentieth century. Both the countryside and the cities were full of them – indeed, they were designed around their use. The sound of modernity was one endless, reverberating clip-clop.But then the internal combustion engine roared into our lives. Apart from a few specialised uses like mounted policing, horses disappeared from the cities – and in the countryside have survived mostly as pets (the less said about their culinary uses, the better). Draught horse breeds that once propelled the economy would be extinct wnot for the dedication of enthusiasts.
All this happened not out of a desire to free these noble animals from our exploitation, but because new technology and hard economics meant that it was simply too expensive and inconvenient to stick to the old ways. It’ll be the same with the species we currently rear and slaughter for their meat. Their numbers too will dwindle away. The land and buildings they currently occupy will be put to other uses.
https://unherd.com/2017/11/animals-different-us/?=refinnar
They were supposed to be reporting on the Welsh minister’s statement but instead it read like the Welsh were being irresponsible and ignoring climate change! It then filled a paragraph by talking about two irrelevant people who were becoming vegan “for the environment”, as if it mattered. The icing on the cake was an image of a burger and chips! Although it was supposed to be good news for farmers, the reader was still left with the impression that farmers were in the wrong! Made me furious!
It could well happen. We really need to push the carbon sequestration argument to stop this manufactured shite coming more commonplace they might be a cheaper food but it won't pump carbon into the soil like a ruminant canFound this on a site called Unherd.
Liz Specht goes on to argue that hi-tech alternatives to meat – i.e. plant-based meat substitutes and, somewhat further into the future, vat-grown meat produced from cultured animal cells – are not subject to these inflexibilities. As well as removing slaughter from the equation (plus various other animal welfare issues), the economics of production are fundamentally different. The new technology makes ‘meat’ a truly manufactured product – conferring advantages of efficiency and agility. Specifically, these will come from dramatically shorter lead-in times; the ability to supply products in exactly the quantities required; the minimisation of low value by-products; and the capacity to develop variations of flavour, texture and nutritional content.Whether or not veganism continues to gain popularity doesn’t really matter. The alt-meat industry doesn’t require people to believe that meat is murder – cold hard economics is all it needs to kill the competition.You can already see the supermarkets preparing for what’s to come. Over the last few years the range of substitute meat products has grown in quantity and quality. Expect this trend to continue to the point when real meat becomes the niche product (and probably quite an expensive one).Is it credible that a global industry that rears and slaughters billions of animals every year could all but disappear? The answer is yes, because something very similar has happened before.Horses were once integral to our way of life – long into the industrial era they were absolutely critical to our transportation systems and other economic activities. In fact, ‘peak horse’ for the western world was the early twentieth century. Both the countryside and the cities were full of them – indeed, they were designed around their use. The sound of modernity was one endless, reverberating clip-clop.But then the internal combustion engine roared into our lives. Apart from a few specialised uses like mounted policing, horses disappeared from the cities – and in the countryside have survived mostly as pets (the less said about their culinary uses, the better). Draught horse breeds that once propelled the economy would be extinct wnot for the dedication of enthusiasts.
All this happened not out of a desire to free these noble animals from our exploitation, but because new technology and hard economics meant that it was simply too expensive and inconvenient to stick to the old ways. It’ll be the same with the species we currently rear and slaughter for their meat. Their numbers too will dwindle away. The land and buildings they currently occupy will be put to other uses.
https://unherd.com/2017/11/animals-different-us/?=refinnar
A terrible prospect.Found this on a site called Unherd.
Liz Specht goes on to argue that hi-tech alternatives to meat – i.e. plant-based meat substitutes and, somewhat further into the future, vat-grown meat produced from cultured animal cells – are not subject to these inflexibilities. As well as removing slaughter from the equation (plus various other animal welfare issues), the economics of production are fundamentally different. The new technology makes ‘meat’ a truly manufactured product – conferring advantages of efficiency and agility. Specifically, these will come from dramatically shorter lead-in times; the ability to supply products in exactly the quantities required; the minimisation of low value by-products; and the capacity to develop variations of flavour, texture and nutritional content.Whether or not veganism continues to gain popularity doesn’t really matter. The alt-meat industry doesn’t require people to believe that meat is murder – cold hard economics is all it needs to kill the competition.You can already see the supermarkets preparing for what’s to come. Over the last few years the range of substitute meat products has grown in quantity and quality. Expect this trend to continue to the point when real meat becomes the niche product (and probably quite an expensive one).Is it credible that a global industry that rears and slaughters billions of animals every year could all but disappear? The answer is yes, because something very similar has happened before.Horses were once integral to our way of life – long into the industrial era they were absolutely critical to our transportation systems and other economic activities. In fact, ‘peak horse’ for the western world was the early twentieth century. Both the countryside and the cities were full of them – indeed, they were designed around their use. The sound of modernity was one endless, reverberating clip-clop.But then the internal combustion engine roared into our lives. Apart from a few specialised uses like mounted policing, horses disappeared from the cities – and in the countryside have survived mostly as pets (the less said about their culinary uses, the better). Draught horse breeds that once propelled the economy would be extinct wnot for the dedication of enthusiasts.
All this happened not out of a desire to free these noble animals from our exploitation, but because new technology and hard economics meant that it was simply too expensive and inconvenient to stick to the old ways. It’ll be the same with the species we currently rear and slaughter for their meat. Their numbers too will dwindle away. The land and buildings they currently occupy will be put to other uses.
https://unherd.com/2017/11/animals-different-us/?=refinnar
kfpben
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This is my biggest fear for our livelihoods. That manufactured fake meat becomes as tasty, and cheaper than the real thing.Found this on a site called Unherd.
Liz Specht goes on to argue that hi-tech alternatives to meat – i.e. plant-based meat substitutes and, somewhat further into the future, vat-grown meat produced from cultured animal cells – are not subject to these inflexibilities. As well as removing slaughter from the equation (plus various other animal welfare issues), the economics of production are fundamentally different. The new technology makes ‘meat’ a truly manufactured product – conferring advantages of efficiency and agility. Specifically, these will come from dramatically shorter lead-in times; the ability to supply products in exactly the quantities required; the minimisation of low value by-products; and the capacity to develop variations of flavour, texture and nutritional content.Whether or not veganism continues to gain popularity doesn’t really matter. The alt-meat industry doesn’t require people to believe that meat is murder – cold hard economics is all it needs to kill the competition.You can already see the supermarkets preparing for what’s to come. Over the last few years the range of substitute meat products has grown in quantity and quality. Expect this trend to continue to the point when real meat becomes the niche product (and probably quite an expensive one).Is it credible that a global industry that rears and slaughters billions of animals every year could all but disappear? The answer is yes, because something very similar has happened before.Horses were once integral to our way of life – long into the industrial era they were absolutely critical to our transportation systems and other economic activities. In fact, ‘peak horse’ for the western world was the early twentieth century. Both the countryside and the cities were full of them – indeed, they were designed around their use. The sound of modernity was one endless, reverberating clip-clop.But then the internal combustion engine roared into our lives. Apart from a few specialised uses like mounted policing, horses disappeared from the cities – and in the countryside have survived mostly as pets (the less said about their culinary uses, the better). Draught horse breeds that once propelled the economy would be extinct wnot for the dedication of enthusiasts.
All this happened not out of a desire to free these noble animals from our exploitation, but because new technology and hard economics meant that it was simply too expensive and inconvenient to stick to the old ways. It’ll be the same with the species we currently rear and slaughter for their meat. Their numbers too will dwindle away. The land and buildings they currently occupy will be put to other uses.
https://unherd.com/2017/11/animals-different-us/?=refinnar
It will make Brexit look like a storm in a tea cup for rural communities.
It’s what the multinational corporations want. Complete control of the supply chain. Control the fake meat factory, the processing, distribution and sale (online through their platforms). Customers will have a ‘smart’ fridge telling them when to re-stock. Meanwhile the 1 billion people that earn their living through livestock farming worldwide are marginalised in favour of google, amazon and Unilever.
It’s all about big data, control and co-ercion.
I intend to be a contrary hillbilly for as long as humanly possible.
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Yes and Labour run WA Policies to shop,buy and eat Local to minimise the effects of climate change etc ,when the same Labour party run VOG council want to close the last one and only Market at Cowbridge thus forcing farmers ither out of livestock farming or travelling further and further away to distant markets , so contradicting their own policies and animal welfare ?
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This is 4 months old, but I've only just seen it
Airlines told to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing vegan meals
2 May 2019 | by FarmingUK Team | News, Produce, Renewables and Environment
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Vegans have urged airlines to stock 'environmentally-friendly meals' because flying has a 'notorious' reputation for producing emissions
Airlines are being urged to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing a vegan in-flight meal as standard on every flight.
The campaign, launched this week by the Vegan Society and Humane Society, encourages airlines to offer non-meat, non-dairy meals as one of the default options.
Both societies argue that currently, the default meal options provided by most airlines are dominated by meat, dairy and eggs.
Because of this, vegan passengers have to proactively request a vegan meal in advance, the groups say.
lena Orde, Senior Campaigns Officer at the Vegan Society, said: “Adding vegan options to every standard in-flight menu would mean that all passengers can opt for a more environmentally-friendly meal.”
The groups add that because flying has a 'notorious reputation' for producing emissions, providing vegan options 'can be a way of offsetting this environmental impact'.
FFS, how many vegan meals do you need to eat to cancel out a plane flight?
Airlines told to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing vegan meals
2 May 2019 | by FarmingUK Team | News, Produce, Renewables and Environment
2573
Vegans have urged airlines to stock 'environmentally-friendly meals' because flying has a 'notorious' reputation for producing emissions
Airlines are being urged to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing a vegan in-flight meal as standard on every flight.
The campaign, launched this week by the Vegan Society and Humane Society, encourages airlines to offer non-meat, non-dairy meals as one of the default options.
Both societies argue that currently, the default meal options provided by most airlines are dominated by meat, dairy and eggs.
Because of this, vegan passengers have to proactively request a vegan meal in advance, the groups say.
lena Orde, Senior Campaigns Officer at the Vegan Society, said: “Adding vegan options to every standard in-flight menu would mean that all passengers can opt for a more environmentally-friendly meal.”
The groups add that because flying has a 'notorious reputation' for producing emissions, providing vegan options 'can be a way of offsetting this environmental impact'.
FFS, how many vegan meals do you need to eat to cancel out a plane flight?
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A Rain Forest full possibly?This is 4 months old, but I've only just seen it
Airlines told to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing vegan meals
2 May 2019 | by FarmingUK Team | News, Produce, Renewables and Environment
2573
Vegans have urged airlines to stock 'environmentally-friendly meals' because flying has a 'notorious' reputation for producing emissions
Airlines are being urged to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing a vegan in-flight meal as standard on every flight.
The campaign, launched this week by the Vegan Society and Humane Society, encourages airlines to offer non-meat, non-dairy meals as one of the default options.
Both societies argue that currently, the default meal options provided by most airlines are dominated by meat, dairy and eggs.
Because of this, vegan passengers have to proactively request a vegan meal in advance, the groups say.
lena Orde, Senior Campaigns Officer at the Vegan Society, said: “Adding vegan options to every standard in-flight menu would mean that all passengers can opt for a more environmentally-friendly meal.”
The groups add that because flying has a 'notorious reputation' for producing emissions, providing vegan options 'can be a way of offsetting this environmental impact'.
FFS, how many vegan meals do you need to eat to cancel out a plane flight?
If someone becomes a vegan supposedly for environmental reasons, they shouldn’t be flying at all!This is 4 months old, but I've only just seen it
Airlines told to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing vegan meals
2 May 2019 | by FarmingUK Team | News, Produce, Renewables and Environment
2573
Vegans have urged airlines to stock 'environmentally-friendly meals' because flying has a 'notorious' reputation for producing emissions
Airlines are being urged to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing a vegan in-flight meal as standard on every flight.
The campaign, launched this week by the Vegan Society and Humane Society, encourages airlines to offer non-meat, non-dairy meals as one of the default options.
Both societies argue that currently, the default meal options provided by most airlines are dominated by meat, dairy and eggs.
Because of this, vegan passengers have to proactively request a vegan meal in advance, the groups say.
lena Orde, Senior Campaigns Officer at the Vegan Society, said: “Adding vegan options to every standard in-flight menu would mean that all passengers can opt for a more environmentally-friendly meal.”
The groups add that because flying has a 'notorious reputation' for producing emissions, providing vegan options 'can be a way of offsetting this environmental impact'.
FFS, how many vegan meals do you need to eat to cancel out a plane flight?
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Yeah, it just shows how hypocritical they are.