seedman stains
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- lost in france
dangerous condition !!! report for a summons or even a tow away job if you fail the attitude test!!!
Vehicle tin work? Legalities!
- Thread starter Dry Rot
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- Scottish Highlands
That's interesting. The repairer can't do the work for a couple of weeks, so we will see what the bureaucrats have to say next week. I'd love to be stopped by the cops, then produce a letter from the authorities stating it's all legal.2x local MOT testers have both said based on the current MOT legislation it would not fail an MOT if the bonnet was not fitted when presented at the MOT station, only that if fitted that it must be secure, they both did say that the police would take a dim view of driving without a bonnet but it doesn't appear to be a criminal offence, however, if stopped you are then in the realms of your insurance companies interpretation of modifications to your vehicle by driving around without the vehicle as intended & originally stated which could mean your current insurance cert would be invalid which is a motoring offence & could lead to license endorsements.
So crack on & tell us if you get caught
The law is a funny thing. I was off in the truck one day and saw a police check point ahead of me. I thought I was for it as one tail light was literally hanging down on the end of the wire having broken free from the body work! But the two young cops on duty said that was fine as it was still working!
At my last MOT inspection, I see the inspector has marked a cracked number plate down as an advisory. There is a small crack across about 1/2 inch of one corner! I don't think I'll be bothering with that!
- Location
- South Molton
Depending on the age of a vehicle, bull bar is still allowable on certain age of vehicles.
Crash testing/pedestrian safety is what prevented the defender being allowed on sale in the US.Holding a loaded gun, no problem
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
But insurance companies by law have to provide basic third party in this situation so they cannot do you2x local MOT testers have both said based on the current MOT legislation it would not fail an MOT if the bonnet was not fitted when presented at the MOT station, only that if fitted that it must be secure, they both did say that the police would take a dim view of driving without a bonnet but it doesn't appear to be a criminal offence, however, if stopped you are then in the realms of your insurance companies interpretation of modifications to your vehicle by driving around without the vehicle as intended & originally stated which could mean your current insurance cert would be invalid which is a motoring offence & could lead to license endorsements.
So crack on & tell us if you get caught
ridger
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- Location
- Tyrone, Northern Ireland
A car passed me in the summertime and it's bonnet flew open, never seen a car stop as quick. Window smashed as well. Would have been safer with no bonnet surely?
- Location
- Darlington
Have you not an owld bit of sheep netting to put over`t hole? to stop someone falling int engine
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
I did think of plywood.....
- Location
- Exeter, Devon
Can’t help wondering how much steam would be coming out of the engine bay as you drive through rain?
- Location
- Devon
To be fair, most police are pretty sensible if you are.
There is a danger leaving an engine running in a public place without a bonnet but if you are driving directly to and from the place of repair, it is hard to see how you are posing a danger to anyone.
I can't imagine you will get anybody to approve you to do it though, it would mean they might be held responsible in the very unlikely case that there was an incident.
There is a danger leaving an engine running in a public place without a bonnet but if you are driving directly to and from the place of repair, it is hard to see how you are posing a danger to anyone.
I can't imagine you will get anybody to approve you to do it though, it would mean they might be held responsible in the very unlikely case that there was an incident.
As above, 50 years ago, if pulled over by Dixon of Dock Green, you would just explain you are on your way to the garage to collect your repaired bonnet.
I'm at a loss as to what could go wrong driving around with no bonnet. Trip over a cat, and dive head first into the engine bay maybe.
I presume hot rods are not legal in the UK then ?
As for " Only a farmer would think of doing such a thing ", more likely only farmers would fret over something so trivial. Has Red Tractor turned us into an industry of timid mice ?
I'm at a loss as to what could go wrong driving around with no bonnet. Trip over a cat, and dive head first into the engine bay maybe.
I presume hot rods are not legal in the UK then ?
As for " Only a farmer would think of doing such a thing ", more likely only farmers would fret over something so trivial. Has Red Tractor turned us into an industry of timid mice ?
It is not illegal for vehicles to be fitted with bull bars, but the Department for Transportdoesn't recommend it unless it has been shown that they don't pose an additional risk of injury to other road users.Depending on the age of a vehicle, bull bar is still allowable on certain age of vehicles.
Crash testing/pedestrian safety is what prevented the defender being allowed on sale in the US.Holding a loaded gun, no problem
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- South Molton
Now look and see which ones are "compliant"
Plastic, lightweight and don't cover the corners around lights.
Might be a loophole coming and going from a place of repair? If you go shopping the next day they’ll def do you but know it’s legal to drive a car with no mot to not centre or a pre arranged mechanic
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- Scottish Highlands
So here we have it. The definitive reply:
"A vehicle’s bonnet not only protects people from parts inside the engine, it also serves to lessen the injuries a more vulnerable road user may receive e.g. a pedestrian, cyclist or motorcyclist, in the event of a collision.
The main offence the police would consider is using a vehicle in a dangerous condition contrary to section 40A of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (please see the link below) but, depending on the circumstances, other offences may apply. However, this will ultimately be a matter for a court to decide.
Road Traffic Act 1988 (legislation.gov.uk)
Additionally, such modifications may:
• result in the vehicle being stopped more frequently by the police because they will need to investigate to see if it is lawful;
• have implications for insurance cover.
Can't argue with that. Looks like I will be getting some exercise!
"A vehicle’s bonnet not only protects people from parts inside the engine, it also serves to lessen the injuries a more vulnerable road user may receive e.g. a pedestrian, cyclist or motorcyclist, in the event of a collision.
The main offence the police would consider is using a vehicle in a dangerous condition contrary to section 40A of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (please see the link below) but, depending on the circumstances, other offences may apply. However, this will ultimately be a matter for a court to decide.
Road Traffic Act 1988 (legislation.gov.uk)
Additionally, such modifications may:
• result in the vehicle being stopped more frequently by the police because they will need to investigate to see if it is lawful;
• have implications for insurance cover.
Can't argue with that. Looks like I will be getting some exercise!
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- JanDeGrootLand
Have you no spare bonnets lying around. Or with some of the LR fans near?
Used to be common to see LR's with different coloured doors, bonnets, tops etc.
- Location
- Westish Suffolk
Bit of 2x4 across the gap, with your spare wheel taped on to it for camouflage. Will keep the engine bay dryish too...
Pic please!
Pic please!
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
I think the point about insurance is the most important.
Paddington
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- Soggy Shropshire
Chap I knew had an old car (Audi ?) with a front hinged bonnet. The thing was barely roadworthy but one day he met a bus from the local coach company in a single track lane. The bus drivers were known for not stopping or ever giving way and as he slammed on the brakes, the bonnet lifted up, went over the front of the car and fell in the road. He reversed for the bus who promptly drove his bonnet. I remember he tried to claim for a new bonnet off insurance, citing the bus driver who then claimed he was no way near the car, never hit it and didn't see the bonnet. 