Virus in Sugar Beet

[redbaron]

I'm wondering how much yellowing is now showing in others' beet fields, and if there is any correlation to the insecticide spray programme. Here all fields are showing patches of yellowing. A month ago just isolated plants, or small groups of plants. Seems to have progressed over past month, so now looking worse. Complete lack of any yellowing in areas that emerged late - some as late as 2 months after first emerged areas! We monitored frequently and carefully between emergence and 10-12 leaves, and only sprayed if threshold numbers of wingless green aphids found. 2 sprays mostly, 3 on one field. Is beet becoming yet another break crop losing its appeal?

 

[Flat 10]

Here later emerged areas are worse. I only sprayed at threshold between 0 and 2 passes. At the moment 1x seems worst but evidence in all crops. Yes its losing its appeal but apparently we aren't that far from breeding yellows resistance if we believe what we are told.

 

[Laggard]

Later emerged beet have more virus here too. No insecticide sprayed here but quite a lot of virus unfortunately.
Who came up with the 3 year price deal? Bonkers.

 

[Flat 10]

Later emerged beet have more virus here too. No insecticide sprayed here but quite a lot of virus unfortunately.
Who came up with the 3 year price deal? Bonkers.

No one made us sign. But the yield penalty from yellows is really going to suck.

 

[Breckland Boy]

Lots of yellow patches in my beet.. Maybe upto 20%. Vixen upto 50%
Very concerned about the potential yield loss and how long the canopy will survive into winter.
Smaller, deteriorating canopies will mean higher risk of frost damage and possibly mean growers favouring an earlier lift.
For me, I normally plan to have all my beet lifted by Xmas and delivered by mid January but I can't see my worst affected beet lasting even that long.

 

[Honest john]

Please Request your MP to do a field visit.

Only politicians can give a degeneration to use insecticides on seed UnTill we have a plant breading solution.

 

[Breckland Boy]

Lots of yellow patches in my beet.. Maybe upto 20%. Vixen upto 50%
Very concerned about the potential yield loss and how long the canopy will survive into winter.
Smaller, deteriorating canopies will mean higher risk of frost damage and possibly mean growers favouring an earlier lift.
For me, I normally plan to have all my beet lifted by Xmas and delivered by mid January but I can't see my worst affected beet lasting even that long.

I'm quite resigned to the possibility of this being my last beet crop. My 3yr deal is ending and I have no specialist machinery.
The loss of neonic seed dressing, betanal based herbicide program and the added cost of insecticides ( that have limited benefits) mean the risks of growing the crop are becoming too great. I am already totally dependent on favourable weather for profitability. The price that BS offer for next year won't be higher to offset the increased risks.

 

[Flat 10]

I'm quite resigned to the possibility of this being my last beet crop. My 3yr deal is ending and I have no specialist machinery.
The loss of neonic seed dressing, betanal based herbicide program and the added cost of insecticides ( that have limited benefits) mean the risks of growing the crop are becoming too great. I am already totally dependent on favourable weather for profitability. The price that BS offer for next year won't be higher to offset the increased risks.

I think my area will be much lower next year. I have a cheap drill and hoe but they are written off. Problem I have is that I can’t grow onions and potatoes like you @Breckland Boy and all combineable breaks are rubbish.

 

[Breckland Boy]

I think my area will be much lower next year. I have a cheap drill and hoe but they are written off. Problem I have is that I can’t grow onions and potatoes like you @Breckland Boy and all combineable breaks are rubbish.

Beet fit in my rotation very well, but I can see a situation where I change it to just having onions and spuds with a two year fallow in between them. Ab15 would be great but we are sssi and the powers that be are intent on lowering fertility, reduce tree numbers and create heathland.

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

I'm quite resigned to the possibility of this being my last beet crop. My 3yr deal is ending and I have no specialist machinery.
The loss of neonic seed dressing, betanal based herbicide program and the added cost of insecticides ( that have limited benefits) mean the risks of growing the crop are becoming too great. I am already totally dependent on favourable weather for profitability. The price that BS offer for next year won't be higher to offset the increased risks.

I am thinking the same. On top of this we have had poor late establishment on our heavier fields due to Spring drought, and no access to irrigation, now being swamped by another flush of weeds.

 

[Flat 10]

Beet fit in my rotation very well, but I can see a situation where I change it to just having onions and spuds with a two year fallow in between them. Ab15 would be great but we are sssi and the powers that be are intent on lowering fertility, reduce tree numbers and create heathland.

Can you have pigs for 2 years?

 

[Breckland Boy]

Can you have pigs for 2 years?

They are a possibility. I have a local guy who is keen but LL may kick up a fuss. _

 

[Flat 10]

Shame about the ab15.

 

[Breckland Boy]

It is,
Might be worth doing anyway but on our own terms.

 

[DrWazzock]

We sprayed twice after monitoring very carefully but looking at it I wonder if it did any good at all.
I shall be applying a fungicide spray any day now but will a second fungicide spray be worthwhile given the canopy looks pretty bad already?
We persevere but it’s an uphill struggle.

 

[Flat 10]

Spraying mine this week. Shame cheaper fungicides like straight teb and amistar aren't approved for beet

 

[robbie]

Spraying mine this week. Shame cheaper fungicides like straight teb and amistar aren't approved for beet

Now a sceptic may think theres a reason for that.

 

[Flat 10]

Now a sceptic may think theres a reason for that.

That's what I was getting at. I quite like the BBRO but they could help us by getting some eamus...

 

[robbie]

Yep, there school report would read "could try harder"

Miridor extra isnt bad money compared to the others.

 

[Lincsman]

The future is fallow