What have I done !

[RushesToo]

I really can’t explain why but after spreading some muck / compost / biosolid on some land going into OSR this month I decided it would be a good idea to subsoil it !

This is a block that has been 10 years no till, it has great structure but now my moment of maddens and misjudgement has left me a unstructured, unlevel, unweather proof mess that I actually think I’ve forgotten how to make into something suitable to drill !

I think a light pass with a carrier and the rolls - the cost and time of which makes me recall what a lot of pointless work cultivation is

Not sure why I’m sharing this - just felt some sort of need to confess :-(

@Clive So I polluted my search history to find this:
"We admitted we were powerless over cultivation —that our lives had become unmanageable "

There are eleven steps to follow according to C*A

Twelve-step program - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It all seems very deity based, he/she or they will forgive you, the planet might not.

STOP DOING IT.**


*cultivators
** did you really need someone to tell you that?

edited to reflect various genders of deities

 

[yellowfrog]

nice to see even god makes mistakes

 

[hendrebc]

Any pictures of the soil now and a similar field that hasn't been done for comparison?

 

[Clive]

Any pictures of the soil now and a similar field that hasn't been done for comparison?

not sure I could bring myself to take a picture ................. but in the interest of openness when it stops raining and i'm passing I will get one

 

[Adeptandy]

not sure I could bring myself to take a picture ................. but in the interest of openness when it stops raining and i'm passing I will get one

Is that bescause you've dragged big solid lumps up ?

 

[SilliamWhale]

I really can’t explain why but after spreading some muck / compost / biosolid on some land going into OSR this month I decided it would be a good idea to subsoil it !

This is a block that has been 10 years no till, it has great structure but now my moment of maddens and misjudgement has left me a unstructured, unlevel, unweather proof mess that I actually think I’ve forgotten how to make into something suitable to drill !

I think a light pass with a carrier and the rolls - the cost and time of which makes me recall what a lot of pointless work cultivation is

Not sure why I’m sharing this - just felt some sort of need to confess :-(

Surprising how slumpy a subsoiler can leave land. You think its not doing much on the surface but it does. I use them as little as possible now - wheat doesn't care

 

[Clive]

Is that bescause you've dragged big solid lumps up ?

no the soil is lovely and fryable as you would expect from 10 year of not being buggered about with ................ but is wet now and loose and my worms and biology are homeless. its rough so wil need leveling and consolidation before a drill can do a decent job on it

 

[Beowulf]

I think the lesson here is to sell the subsoiler and spend the proceeds on chicory and tillage radish seed.

 

[Mc115reed]

Did your muckspreading contractor make that much mess that you had too get the subsoiler out? [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]

 

[Clive]

Did your muckspreading contractor make that much mess that you had too get the subsoiler out? [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]

not really but there has been a lot of traffic as a lot of free Pas100 compost and biosilid has / is going on

 

[Mc115reed]

not really but there has been a lot of traffic as a lot of free Pas100 compost and biosilid has / is going on

Maybe a need too move too a muck spreader with capability of working in tramlines? Keep the traffic too the tramlines that way?

 

[ollie989898]

Isn't there someone with a drill that can prep and drill into it in one hit? I'd do that. Vaddy pulled at speed when it is a bit drier?

It's not like you have ploughed it in a moment of madness. I would not worry a jot.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

@Clive, we could have a ploughing match on it later in the month to tidy it up if you want,












Tin hat on and got my coat

 

[Clive]

Isn't there someone with a drill that can prep and drill into it in one hit? I'd do that. Vaddy pulled at speed when it is a bit drier?

It's not like you have ploughed it in a moment of madness. I would not worry a jot.

i'm sure we can sort it, needs to dry out, carrier to level up and rolls to consolidate and I think either the avatar or the co will be fine then


as someone said earlier things always look worse when it raining !

its been a good reminder of why we do what we do - what feels like a mistake here is standard practice for many, how strange is that ? if you did this to your entire farm every year how on earth would you make money ???

 

[Brisel]

I really can’t explain why but after spreading some muck / compost / biosolid on some land going into OSR this month I decided it would be a good idea to subsoil it !

This is a block that has been 10 years no till, it has great structure but now my moment of maddens and misjudgement has left me a unstructured, unlevel, unweather proof mess that I actually think I’ve forgotten how to make into something suitable to drill !

I think a light pass with a carrier and the rolls - the cost and time of which makes me recall what a lot of pointless work cultivation is

Not sure why I’m sharing this - just felt some sort of need to confess :-(

Did you detect compacted layers with a spade? I would be more concerned that you'd done it without thinking about it or justifying it, not whether it needed it or not.

 

[Clive]

Did you detect compacted layers with a spade? I would be more concerned that you'd done it without thinking about it or justifying it, not whether it needed it or not.

thats the madness - i went digging and couldn't find a problem, however there were a lot of wheeling from spreading, not deep or ruts but it was wet on top when we spread so it looked a bit of a mess, I saw the subsoiler, we had a man and tractor available so thought "why not give it a go"

Wrong I know, what i probably should have done is use the carrier for a light suface cultivation juts to tidy up the wheelings maybe

 

[yellow belly]

Is this a wind up or did you really forget 10 years of learning

Take pictures we want to see the foolishness
Put one on the office wall to remind you when the next time the urge to make a mess occurs

too wet here for mole draining so subsoiling out of the question for a year at least
Drains running again making up for last years lack of flow

Thankfully not having the investment in labour and tractors for cultivation which would only make soil into mud

We will have 1 metre of wheeling every 9 m
11% wheeled on

 

[Clive]

Is this a wind up or did you really forget 10 years of learning

Take pictures we want to see the foolishness
Put one on the office wall to remind you when the next time the urge to make a mess occurs

too wet here for mole draining so subsoiling out of the question for a year at least
Drains running again making up for last years lack of flow

Thankfully not having the investment in labour and tractors for cultivation which would only make soil into mud

We will have 1 metre of wheeling every 9 m
11% wheeled on

not a wind up , not a big area but yes a moment of madness / doubt

it wasn't wet when we did it, lovely soil conditions then in fact but it's wet now

lesson learned

 

[Brisel]

Let’s hope the ploughmen don’t find this thread...

 

[ollie989898]

I'm sure with a bit of wet and dry weather on it the stuff will look perfect in no time. If you have a Solo why not run that over it with the legs lifted up and let the discs go at it to level up?