Where is less Loony?

[czechmate]

France would be good if it wasn't for the French.

I would seriously consider Eastern Europe like Romania or Ukraine. OK maybe mafia but I reckon they are more a known than Liberal lefty governments everywhere else.

French are great

 

[MontyK]

Me and the Mrs used to go and watch World Super Bikes in Holland (Assen) quite fancied moving, plenty of dairy in the North.

 

[Yale]

Me and the Mrs used to go and watch World Super Bikes in Holland (Assen) quite fancied moving, plenty of dairy in the North.

We’ve been a few times to the Netherlands.

I love the country and it’s fantastic to get around on superb public transport.

However I just get the feeling it is more populated than the UK and it surely has the same issues that dealing with people has.

Still a great place and most speak English.

 

[Devil's advocate]

If you want to avoid 'wokism' you have to leave the West. All Western nations are now fundamentally split between the masses, who are largely as they ever have been politically, and a political class that runs everything and selects its new members by their political allegiance to the Left. Basically you don't get to be a senior person of any organisation in the West unless you are a signed up believer (at least in public) of the Left's latest nostrums. This goes for all elected politicians (regardless of their rosette colour), all State run and funded organisations, all educational organisations, all charities, all mainstream media outlets and increasingly large business as well. What would have been completely mainstream political views 30 years ago, ones that are held by large proportions or even the majority of the population at large now exclude you from almost any position of power within Western society. This results in what we see today where what the political class want they almost inevitably get because regardless of who one votes for, behind the scenes the same people are making the decisions. Its why Brexit was such sh*tstorm, the political class was outvoted by the masses on a single issue referendum, and had the biggest of all temper tantrums as a result.

You'd have to probably move to more traditional religion based societies to avoid this - perhaps places dominated by the Catholic Church, such as Eastern Europe or South America perhaps. Or dare I say it even go to somewhere like Russia. Yes, you would have to make sure you didn't make fun of Uncle Vlad, but you wouldn't have your children being taught there are 27 different genders and the world is going to end if you eat a burger.

Have Labour been in power for 60 years in this parrel universe you live in.

Its not too bad in Barnsley,

 

[Matthew Britton]

Wife and I are early/mid 30s, living in the South of England and thinking about the future. Baby arriving soon all things being well.

I’m a livestock farmer, she’s a farrier. Outside interests; cricket (me), horses (her), hunting (both).

With the mounting lunacy in government with regards to farming in this country where, if anywhere is better?

Oz? (Could we stand the heat!?)
NZ? (Has that turned even more anti farming than the U.K. recently?)
Scotland? (recommending big cut in cattle numbers).
Ireland? France? Argentina?
Might pass on Afghan for now but happy to think of other options!

Or stay put, keep our heads down and keep expanding the business?
Are others having similar thoughts?

For similar reasons to you and a few other reasons not mentioned we moved to France 2 years ago. It really is the best thing we could have done from a farming and family perspective. If you want a chat about it or have questions feel free to pm.

 

[Matthew Britton]

Better bet...

France Farms | 0(ha) farm for sale - , France

A 0 ha in the region; Department of .

www.france-foncier.fr

I think I could put you in touch with the vendor rather than go through him. I looked at it 12 years ago, it’s a good farm.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Everywhere is loony. It's just that different places are loony in different ways.

 

[Matthew Britton]

France would be good if it wasn't for the French.

I would seriously consider Eastern Europe like Romania or Ukraine. OK maybe mafia but I reckon they are more a known than Liberal lefty governments everywhere else.

We have been met with nothing but kindness and help, I guess it depends which way you approach people as to what you get back.

 

[puntabrava]

You are only buying a small holding and a tenancy on extra land though.

Then it’s probably best to buy some crumbling Chateau next to a good vineyard and go out in style, rather than fritter it away on sucklers.

 

[neilo]

We have been met with nothing but kindness and help, I guess it depends which way you approach people as to what you get back.

The same could be said for moving anywhere, within the UK or overseas.

 

[Hilly]

We have been met with nothing but kindness and help, I guess it depends which way you approach people as to what you get back.

Exactly !!

 

[Danllan]

If you speak French move to France , if you speak Spanish move to Spain , if you speak gibberish move to Wales or Scotland

Or Lincoln, if you're a tw at.

The stumbling block has always been Mrs teslacoils. And the age of the children. I'm not sure at ages 11 and 14 it would be fair to drop them in a school in a country where the don't speak the language.

Children under 8, I'd have no problem going somewhere wild.

I'd love to go to Japan to farm, and my children would come too. Ditto Africa, Romania, maybe even the Levant. Oh Philippines, Malaysia.

I have spent a lot of time in Japan, and I know lots of farmers there, what would you farm?

It has very esoteric markets there, the spoken language is just about learnable, but you would struggle to reach the standard for even basic form filling.

Summer is pretty horrible, the rest of the year is fine.

 

[Lincoln75]

Or Lincoln, if you're a tw at.

Gibber gibber ?

 

[aled1590]

I went to Methven when I was 18 and thought ‘this is my perfect town’!

Is it the blue pub and brown pub there? I worked for a while just outside methven, such a great community and remember a few pish ups in the brown pub. Life out there seems way more fun

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Me and the Mrs used to go and watch World Super Bikes in Holland (Assen) quite fancied moving, plenty of dairy in the North.

36 km down the road is better.

 

[Matthew Britton]

The same could be said for moving anywhere, within the UK or overseas.

Absolutely. I have always found that depending how you approach people of all nationalities depends what you get back out.