Which conventional small bale baler?

[Marmite Mac]

I am sure this thread will have been done to death but if it has then I am not finding it.
What's the opinion on the best make and model to choose for making up to / around 2,000 small conventional hay bales per year, within a price of around £5-6k second hand?

 

[balerman]

I am sure this thread will have been done to death but if it has then I am not finding it.
What's the opinion on the best make and model to choose for making up to / around 2,000 small conventional hay bales per year, within a price of around £5-6k second hand?

There arent too many options now,Welger,JD or NH in that price range.Welger will be hardest to find and probably the best,but nowt wrong with either of the others.

 

[Welderloon]

Oakfields

 

[daveydiesel1]

A massey small square. Drive over the rows so never bales in the way

 

[Boohoo]

A massey small square. Drive over the rows so never bales in the way

Going to be above the budget though.
They seem to be a baler that you either love or hate, I've never used one but I think I'd hate it.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Going to be above the budget though.
They seem to be a baler that you either love or hate, I've never used one but I think I'd hate it.

Why

 

[Boohoo]

Why

Driving over the rows pulling them into lumps, not being able to see into the pick up as well and blockages being harder to clear.
From what I've read the output isn't anything spectacular either.
I've spent plenty of time driving over rows with a round baler but the intake is bigger and there's more options for clearing a blockage.
Transport width is an advantage but I've never failed to get a conventional baler into a field yet.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Driving over the rows pulling them into lumps, not being able to see into the pick up as well and blockages being harder to clear.
From what I've read the output isn't anything spectacular either.
I've spent plenty of time driving over rows with a round baler but the intake is bigger and there's more options for clearing a blockage.
Transport width is an advantage but I've never failed to get a conventional baler into a field yet.

Iv never driven 1 eithrr but id of thought output would be better as not shifting material across, i also thought that would of left her not as likely to block aswel but im not sure

 

[Phil P]

Won’t go far wrong with a Welger, we have an AP630 that’s been very good with decent output. Only gets dragged out for a couple of hundred bales a year now though.

Tidy one here but could be top end of your budget though

WELGER AP 630 - Walling UK

Conventional square baler, Hydraulic drawbar, Hydraulic pick up reel lift.

www.wallinguk.com

 

[Jsmith2211]

one that ties knots...

 

[daveydiesel1]

Question about a nh baler. Wev a 575 that throws bannana bales, what would the problem be?

 

[Jsmith2211]

Question about a nh baler. Wev a 575 that throws bannana bales, what would the problem be?

Go up a gear, fill it so it doesn't quite pop a sheer bolt but isn't far off

 

[spin cycle]

tidy example more important than specific make

 

[Jsmith2211]

tidy example more important than specific make

Though some are better than others... for example NH do love to throw a banana. Also you can buy something that looks tidy and have it turn out to be a right dog. Its a lottery with small balers.

 

[Dry Rot]

I'll be selling my Welger AP 520 some time but can't really bear to part with it just now! Anyway, I am way up north....

 

[daveydiesel1]

Go up a gear, fill it so it doesn't quite pop a sheer bolt but isn't far off

We tend to drive it on the easy side as when it breaks a shear its a right pain. What is tge optimim revs to be running at if that makes any difference

 

[Jsmith2211]

We tend to drive it on the easy side as when it breaks a shear its a right pain. What is tge optimim revs to be running at if that makes any difference

540rpm+. Being easy on it is why it is making bananas. Fill the chamber.

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

I am sure this thread will have been done to death but if it has then I am not finding it.
What's the opinion on the best make and model to choose for making up to / around 2,000 small conventional hay bales per year, within a price of around £5-6k second hand?

If your on Facebook, this isn't a bad place to ask....

Small/Conventional baler group. | Facebook

A face book group for small/Conventional balers. Pictures, setting tips,problem solving etc. whether a new welger/Massey inline or an old welger trusser. A group for the fans of idiot bricks!

www.facebook.com

one that ties knots...

That feeling when it starts buggering about ,late afternoon, with rain coming

Question about a nh baler. Wev a 575 that throws bannana bales, what would the problem be?

As mentioned in other posts, feeding them hard seems to help. Also packer location can play a part too. A few videos on the baler Facebook group showing NH balers being absolutely stuffed, but they producing some nice, well shaped bales.

tidy example more important than specific make

Your learning James
Didn't you have a nice John deere baler........

 

[Mac M3]

Question about a nh baler. Wev a 575 that throws bannana bales, what would the problem be?

used to have a 575 and found adjusting the packer arm sorted the problem,
bales would be perfectly square,bale length inconsistency was the biggest problem.
springs on the hay dogs could break from time to time which can also doesn’t
help bale shape

 

[davidroberts30]

540rpm+. Being easy on it is why it is making bananas. Fill the chamber.

We tend to drive it on the easy side as when it breaks a shear its a right pain. What is tge optimim revs to be running at if that makes any difference

you need to set the baler properly then drive it on!!
i can usually make a baler banana bales both way either under or over feeding, you soon learn the sweet spot