Which wheat variety on sand land?

[Grass And Grain]

What are your preferred wheat varieties for light sandy land?

Open to suggestions...

 

[Wheat]

Skyscraper works well on our lightest soil.

 

[Breckland Boy]

I have been growing Montana on my beach for 3 years. Average protein is above 15%.
Bushel last year was 80+
Very happy with it

 

[Grass And Grain]

Thanks so far.

Just one bulk store for all the wheat @Breckland Boy , so can't keep e wheat separate. Got to take your comments seriously though given your username!

How does Montana yield compared to the more mainstream varieties. I presume lower yield?

 

[Grass And Grain]

Skyscraper works well on our lightest soil.

Good light land yield results for Skyscraper in the RL. So that's obviously delivering on farm. Thanks.

 

[Breckland Boy]

Yields are wholly limited by moisture. It's on a par with any other variety I have grown.
It's the only variety I grow.

 

[czechmate]

Here, where it is hot and dry early and the ground isn’t strong, although not sandy, I switched to soisant a few years back and it yields much better than any others

 

[Grass And Grain]

Here, where it is hot and dry early and the ground isn’t strong, although not sandy, I switched to soisant a few years back and it yields much better than any others

Our neighbour has grown a lot of soisant over the years, and it does well on droughty land.

 

[DRC]

I’m amazed folks are growing wheat on really light land . Has to be barley here on certain fields or the yield is just too low to bother .
Just runs out of steam .

 

[Grass And Grain]

I’m amazed folks are growing wheat on really light land . Has to be barley here on certain fields or the yield is just too low to bother .
Just runs out of steam .

The field in question is sand which could blow in places , but it's good fertile sand. Capable of growing 4t/acre. In many ways it is one of our best fields, but I think really wants the correct variety of wheat on it.

We've some other poorer sand that we wouldn't even think about putting wheat on.

 

[DrWazzock]

Crispin did very well on light sand here last year. 4 t per acre, january drilled after beet. Couldn’t believe it. Feed.

 

[Hampton]

Costello

 

[Breckland Boy]

I’m amazed folks are growing wheat on really light land . Has to be barley here on certain fields or the yield is just too low to bother .
Just runs out of steam .

Winter barley costs the same to grow as wheat apart from an extra 30-40 kg N.
Bydv risk in barley is much higher.
£40/ tonne price difference. Plus potential premium for milling.
Yield is often the same or wheat slightly higher.

 

[Grass And Grain]

We can go 1st wheat on slightly lighter land for the reasons as given by @Breckland Boy above, then follow with winter barley for the second cereal.

 

[Flat 10]

Winter barley costs the same to grow as wheat apart from an extra 30-40 kg N.
Bydv risk in barley is much higher.
£40/ tonne price difference. Plus potential premium for milling.
Yield is often the same or wheat slightly higher.

For me its the £40/t price diff. I can grow equal or bigger WB yields on my lightest land using less fert, fung and herb. I agree about the BYDV risk and there's the seed cost of hybrids....

 

[Flat 10]

Istabraq is good on light land. Based on the performance of hybrid barley, hybrid ww could be a game changer.

 

[DrWazzock]

Drilled Firefly this year in jan feb and early March. All vernalised and has picked up remarkably well after a terrible start. Some of it is a second wheat after failed OSR. It’s all latitude dressed. I’m impressed but the combine will be the judge. Very clean as well. I am getting to like late drilling here. Slashed my herbicide cost and black grass problem.
I haven’t bothered with winter barley since planet came on the scene.

 

[DrWazzock]

Neighbours costello has died off with nematode over winter on sandy patches.

However, our field is better sand than that.

nematode problem? Never thought of that. We have lost winter cereals on very light sand many times. Lathered with manganese but made no difference. Had inexplicable problems with beet as well in a wet spring .

 

[Norfolk Olly]

Crispin has performed well last few seasons here, but the hybrid varieties are doing better each year we are growing them. This year especially due to the higher drought tolerances I would think

 

[Grass And Grain]

Crispin has performed well last few seasons here, but the hybrid varieties are doing better each year we are growing them. This year especially due to the higher drought tolerances I would think

Hybrid wheat?