World Record Wheat For Harvest 2021

[teslacoils]

*If* I had a tiny penis, and *if* I felt the need to compensate for this by growing a huge pile of wheat, what would be the things I would do?

Ignoring soil and location, how would you set up for a world record? Obviously you'd publicly say it was down to some crazy trace element, or dancing naked around the magic stones.

But naked dancing aside, How'd you do it? Long break from wheat? High residual N from veg? Dirty great wodges of N? How many seeds? How many heads? What to look at in a variety? How about cultivation - work the bejeesus out of the soil to depth, or what?

Given you can't magically change weather, soil, location, or irrigate, what would you do to get the yield? Buy the yield if you like - this isn't a question of margin. At this level do you have to look at things like tramlines - my ten passes with foot wide tyres might not cut the mustard at 24m. Does it need to be 400kgN with an inhibitor in Feb, then bicycle wheels until harvest ?

It's part interest, part because I've a field coming out of legume fallow that hasn't been wheat in six years, so thought it might be worth a crack.

 

[spin cycle]

lie?....put wet sand in bottom of trailer?

 

[CORK]

*If* I had a tiny penis, and *if* I felt the need to compensate for this by growing a huge pile of wheat, what would be the things I would do?

Ignoring soil and location, how would you set up for a world record? Obviously you'd publicly say it was down to some crazy trace element, or dancing naked around the magic stones.

But naked dancing aside, How'd you do it? Long break from wheat? High residual N from veg? Dirty great wodges of N? How many seeds? How many heads? What to look at in a variety? How about cultivation - work the bejeesus out of the soil to depth, or what?

Given you can't magically change weather, soil, location, or irrigate, what would you do to get the yield? Buy the yield if you like - this isn't a question of margin. At this level do you have to look at things like tramlines - my ten passes with foot wide tyres might not cut the mustard at 24m. Does it need to be 400kgN with an inhibitor in Feb, then bicycle wheels until harvest ?

It's part interest, part because I've a field coming out of legume fallow that hasn't been wheat in six years, so thought it might be worth a crack.

Plant it early after a break crop in a fertile well structured field.
Somehow keep it free from BYDV and foliar disease for as long as possible as every extra summer day grain filling makes a big difference.
Lots of ears/m2.
Make sure the field isn’t too far south which will get too warm and cause early ripening.
Somewhere with very long, bright, cool summer days.
Lots of N and try to make sure that it’s not short of major & minor nutrients.

 

[Pebd99]

Going by our fields this year I’d say plaster on fym if available. Could see exactly where the spreader had finished off. Irrigation and lots of nitrogen to keep it as green as kale till August and a decent pgr program to keep it up.

 

[redsloe]

Some have said that north facing fields have done better this year.
So if it's facing south and we have another 2020......

Forget it!

 

[yellowbelly]

For a start, from what I gather from TFF, you need one of them all singing, all dancing Triton drills...

Triton direct seed drill

Went to see this drill yesterday it do's a fantastic job it was rock solid clay just like a road it went in and lifted all the clay into a fantastic seed bed with out mixing the top soil, The seed slot was closed tight but not sealed to tight to stop germination , The spring beans that were...

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Once you've got one of them apparently it doesn't matter what you do - record yields are virtually guaranteed

 

[B'o'B]

For a start, from what I gather from TFF, you need one of them all singing, all dancing Triton drills...

Triton direct seed drill

Went to see this drill yesterday it do's a fantastic job it was rock solid clay just like a road it went in and lifted all the clay into a fantastic seed bed with out mixing the top soil, The seed slot was closed tight but not sealed to tight to stop germination , The spring beans that were...

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Once you've got one of them apparently it doesn't matter what you do - record yields are virtually guaranteed

And lashings of AminoA as well surely!

 

[PSQ]

The last thing you want is to be lumbered with a world record wheat crop, as you'll be pestered by coach loads of touring farmers 3 times a day forever more, asking how you did it while rudely proclaiming that "it doesn't make economic sense anyway 'cos it cost a fortune in inputs...".

Desperate farmers use 'YEN' protocols to try to get a photo of their grinning mug in the FW.
Clever farmers use 'STFU' protocols when the yield meter averages 17t, because frankly, nobody likes a smart arse

 

[teslacoils]

I can't stop thinking about the tramlines now. Having had my spring crop drilled by someone who shuts off one more row each wheel than I did, ikeep thinking about the yield loss when scaled up to a 17t/ha crop.

I've done 15t/ha before but entirely by accident. Ace field - since sold. Long rotation. Oodles of N. Was a 2nd cereal after barley. No BG.

But I want the prize now.

 

[ajd132]

Be high up

 

[Gong Farmer]

Sorry, but the overriding requirement is no moisture stress at all (positive or negative) at any stage of its life cycle. Anything else is wasted if that isn't achieved.

(Have I just talked myself out of my job?)

 

[richard hammond]

Sorry, but the overriding requirement is no moisture stress at all (positive or negative) at any stage of its life cycle. Anything else is wasted if that isn't achieved.

(Have I just talked myself out of my job?)

or is it about cat-ion exchange things re plant food available , or all the other things mentioned,?? NO BUGGER REALLY KNOWS. or they are really clever farmers!!

 

[ollie989898]

Ship loads of muck, ship loads of N and ship loads of PGR. Keep the disease out and aim for a thicker crop where each tiller is fed without limits. Too much water or not enough and all bets are off though.

 

[Wombat]

Sorry, but the overriding requirement is no moisture stress at all (positive or negative) at any stage of its life cycle. Anything else is wasted if that isn't achieved.

(Have I just talked myself out of my job?)

So no rain from Oct to Mar then?

 

[teslacoils]

Just looking at controllable factors tbh. If we're pumping it with N, then it better be AN I suppose, as our clays take a bit longer to get going. Variety that stands too. Then keep it green.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Just looking at controllable factors tbh. If we're pumping it with N, then it better be AN I suppose, as our clays take a bit longer to get going. Variety that stands too. Then keep it green.

How would CAN compare to AN. I find calcium ammonium nitrate slow release so needs to be on early, but it should also get the calcium into the cell walls of the cereal plant?

Better still if trace elements could be applied with the CAN

 

[teslacoils]

I'll probably go with piamon for the slow urea and fast AnS, with the sulphur. Three splits. And will have oodles of p&k in the dirt. Going to do a trial run on 8ha after legume fallow mix. Trying to get a variety similar to my old favourite Relay.

 

[redsloe]

I'll probably go with piamon for the slow urea and fast AnS, with the sulphur. Three splits. And will have oodles of p&k in the dirt. Going to do a trial run on 8ha after legume fallow mix. Trying to get a variety similar to my old favourite Relay.

Ploughing or no?

 

[teslacoils]

Ploughing or no?

For the experiment, probably subsoil, disc & press. The experiment is on a field too small to count. But next year we will have a serious crack - after grass, and will plough.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Drill it early enough. If ploughing, get your lime and fert on it. Minimise the traffic, ie don't try to get a seedbed for onions.

Often it's that rush to maul it in after something else that hinders yield potential. Leave your roller parked in the yard where it belongs.
Use wide row spacings and moderate seed rates eg 90-110kg/ha so plants have space and air.
Use a variety proven on your farm.

Graze off with sheep instead of using that first fungicide to save the leaf - just remove the leaf and encourage it to tiller that way. That's best done just at the crack of spring.

Wait a month, bang on your 300kg or whatever of N, use fungicide sparingly (hence the plant spacing consideration) and PGR to taste.
Use 2 independent agronomists to advise and make your own calls on chemistry.

Leave your washing on the line at night and never shut the window on your ute, these are as good as irrigation.

Let us know when you crack 18 ton