Should ethnic minorities & 'yoofs' be allowed to delete our history?

Red Fred · Jun 14, 2020

Chopsy Varmint said:
Me too. I remember well the startled faces of London natives when we flooded the Tube system with smelly wax jackets, tweedy breeks, flat caps, and polite manners.

And people were actually smiling at each other on the tube! A few of us travelled across town on the tube later on that night joking about all the normal silly farm stuff, slurry spreading, our injuries, sheep and so on, and as we got off, the two middle aged London ladies who had been in the carriage with us called out happily and said "We couldn't help listening to you all, it was the funniest journey we've ever had" and everyone wished each other well before going our separate ways.

Jackall · Jun 14, 2020

I don’t think you would get a friendly welcome in London now if you discussed your Kuhn machinery.

Raider112 · Jun 14, 2020

Paddington said:
I've only been on one protest march in my life, one of the Countryside Marches. As rural people we were and still are a minority. There wasn't that much press coverage for over 400,000 people descending on London, probably because we didn't break windows or pull down statues. The only person I can remember shouting was a steward up a lamppost telling gentlemen to doff their caps as they passed the cenotaph.

It didn't stop the police from going in more heavy handed on the last one than they did last week.

lazy farmer · Jun 14, 2020

yellowbelly said:
It's crazy.
When will these idiots realise that everything was relative to the 'thinking' at the moment in time that it occured.

Things move on and thinking (quite rightly so, in a lot of cases, changes) but there's no reason to wear sack cloth and ashes over actions that were petfectly legal in the past. They need to get over it and move on too.

In recent history, Germany was run by a bu66er who commited heinous crimes but is it a reason to boycott them now? I don't think so.

It's a pity the bu66ers haven't something better to do.

The nazi flag is banned in Germany to this day. How does this differ from removing statues of slave traders ?

Still Farming · Jun 14, 2020

lazy farmer said:
The nazi flag is banned in Germany to this day. How does this differ from removing statues of slave traders ?

Also I think a very old Hindu religious symbol the swastika !

le bon paysan · Jun 14, 2020

President Macron tonight,
We will not remove our statues, we will not allow them to be torn down. France has to remember her history, both good and bad, so we can move forward , learn from it and improve.
He went on to say that there are inequalities in France but he will do everything he can to see that everyone is treated equally and given equal opportunities.

br jones · Jun 14, 2020

There maybe a bright side ,

That's not what they said in 1862! Guardian hypocrisy over BLM

The newspaper, which was then called the Manchester Guardian, sided with the Confederates in the US Civil War against the President, who wanted slavery abolished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

quattro · Jun 15, 2020

Onc

Jackall said:
I don’t think you would get a friendly welcome in London now if you discussed your Kuhn machinery.

e went to Cambridge sale with two pals,Kuhn power harrows Wes something I was looking for
1 pal was a row away from us two, when he shouted there’s a Kuhn over here
we just kept walking and laughing!!!

Princess Pooper · Jun 15, 2020

I haven't read the whole thread. My personal view on the Bristol statue is that it should have remained but with a new plaque. As I understand it, negotiations on an alternative wording have been going on for several years but the different sides couldn't agree.

To address the slavery history issue, a new statue should have been commissioned and placed immediately next to the existing one, of a larger negro slave, arms raised in chains that have been cut, in a gesture of triumph, showing empowerment and freedom. I heard a (black) interviewee on the Radio saying 'I don't want to walk past that statue and be reminded of slavery.' Actually I think everyone who walked past that statue should have been reminded of slavery. Our complex and in many cases cruel past should not be hidden away in a museum.

Our concerns should be now and the future, we can't undo the past but we can change the future and modern slavery - of people of every colour - is an urgent issue.

quattro · Jun 15, 2020

I would think there will be a lot of sweat shop Labour/ just about slavery in country’s like Pakistan/India and China so why make such a fuss over here

robs1 · Jun 15, 2020

quattro said:
I would think there will be a lot of sweat shop Labour/ just about slavery in country’s like Pakistan/India and China so why make such a fuss over here

Because we are a white majority country so are to blame for everything

Muck Spreader · Jun 15, 2020

quattro said:
I would think there will be a lot of sweat shop Labour/ just about slavery in country’s like Pakistan/India and China so why make such a fuss over here

I suspect the UK is rife with it like many other places. These illegals entering the country probably end up working in the dark economy run by the same folk who run them in Asia. just like those 23 Chinese shellfish pickers that were drowned in Morcombe bay a few years back.

JP1 · Jun 16, 2020

Highland Mule · Jun 16, 2020

JP1 said:
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Don’t think that anyone on here would disagree with that. The trick is to learn from it without celebrating the evil or idolising the villains.

Ukjay · Jun 16, 2020

Highland Mule said:
Don’t think that anyone on here would disagree with that. The trick is to learn from it without celebrating the evil or idolising the villains.

Err, I know of one who would...

Muck Spreader · Jun 17, 2020

br jones said:
There maybe a bright side ,

That's not what they said in 1862! Guardian hypocrisy over BLM

The newspaper, which was then called the Manchester Guardian, sided with the Confederates in the US Civil War against the President, who wanted slavery abolished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

A case of people in glass houses when it comes to the Daily Mail.

robs1 · Jun 17, 2020

Muck Spreader said:
A case of people in glass houses when it comes to the Daily Mail.

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Doesnt all this just show that most of history shows all sides in both a good and bad way? The problem only arises when the moral high ground is claimed when perhaps the gutter is more appropriate.
The Mail is a joke but the guardian is imvho a disgrace every day they print anything and everything they can that's, anti the uk gov, pro europe and of of dont forget the anti farm rhetoric.

Muck Spreader · Jun 17, 2020

robs1 said:
Doesnt all this just show that most of history shows all sides in both a good and bad way? The problem only arises when the moral high ground is claimed when perhaps the gutter is more appropriate.
The Mail is a joke but the guardian is imvho a disgrace every day they print anything and everything they can that's, anti the uk gov, pro europe and of of dont forget the anti farm rhetoric.

IMO all newspapers are a) a mouthpiece for their owners and b) an echo chamber for their readers.

Ukjay · Jun 17, 2020

Will these peeps have to change their name, as we cannot use B Board now:

Old Boar · Jun 17, 2020

I was told off once for selling black pudding. I told him I was born in Africa so it is allowed. He went off in a huff!

Oh, and never shout carrot dogs in Welsh...(moron cwn). Yes, pronounced like that

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