Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Tenants add their time into the mix too. If having paid the rent, there is only £1/hr worked left in the pot to sustain themselves there becomes a problem.
Attention landlords
- Thread starter Billboy1
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Tenants add their time into the mix too. If having paid the rent, there is only £1/hr worked left in the pot to sustain themselves there becomes a problem.
glasshouse
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- lothians
Thats why no money should be paid unless there is an actual farmer in situ, with grubby hands, and a set of machinery.
Otherwise the countryside as we know it is doomed
90% will be grade 3, there will be some grade 4. Its at 110ft
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
landlords wont need tennants by the look of these ELM schemes, im told the guys with direct drills can produce wheat at less than £90/t so your landlords will prob advise you do that or put it into treesLandlords need not worry, @Bossfarmer has assured them (and everyone else) that rents will rise once BPS goes..........which is good news for me, I plan to rent my place out next year, I'll obviously be able to make a killing
But that has its own problems. A solution is to stop the payments totally and then there is no possible income except from farming or letting to a farmer
They will need people to carry out some sort of management
glasshouse
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- lothians
The problems were tiny compared to thisBut that has its own problems. A solution is to stop the payments totally and then there is no possible income except from farming or letting to a farmer
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- Fife
But that has its own problems. A solution is to stop the payments totally and then there is no possible income except from farming or letting to a farmer
I live for the day
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- Fife
How is he not a millionaire?
If someone could pay me to farm some land and buildings like that I'd become a farm owner within a decade.
If someone could pay me to farm some land and buildings like that I'd become a farm owner within a decade.
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- Fife
As a point of balance, I have 3 landlords. All 3 actively farm. Admittedly 2 are purely arable not stock, but one has a large suckler herd and still rents me year round grass. I'll be eternally grateful to them for the opportunity.
Not easy when they can employ a contractor to do the operations for them. CFAs are far more costly to administer than just sending a rent invoice, if that's any consolation.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
He also said to trade the ewes for cows, heifers all sold out sorry. .Rents will have to fall !
George useless just said it , when bps goes rents will have to fall in order for farming to remain profitablesorted then
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
I know
Lots of days I'd rather have just written the cheque
I'm lost. Do you mean would rather have written the rent cheque to a landlord than been tied up in a CFA with them?
Yes the admin is a PITA. Financially its more 50:50.
I'm lost. Do you mean would rather have written the rent cheque to a landlord than been tied up in a CFA with them?
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Yep, that's why people say there's money in farming because right from the start you have an extra layer of people making a living. The owner and the tenant.
I don't think that happens as much here, you own it you farm it. The only lease blocks I can think of are when parents lease the farm to one of their children or an older farmer leases the farm when they are too old to run it but don't want to sell. My wife's uncle is currently in that position.
Round here it seems to be 1-3 year deals, then the place is sold.
It may not be typical of the whole country though.
Perhaps if the sub goes in the UK there will be a big change in how the land is managed?
That’ll need a change in the tax rules I think.
glasshouse
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- lothians
Your government threw the landlords out 140 yrs ago
A lot of landlords aren’t the squire living in the big house type, but financial institutions or pension companies.
our estate has been owned by a number of such types, including The Mercantile , The land improvement company ( a government quango) and currently a trust fund. We’ve never seen the owners, just deal with the agents.
We have always had the sub or environmental money .
our estate has been owned by a number of such types, including The Mercantile , The land improvement company ( a government quango) and currently a trust fund. We’ve never seen the owners, just deal with the agents.
We have always had the sub or environmental money .
Mixedupfarmer
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- Norfolk
Land values will have to drop here massively for this to happen