Do fishermen have it easy

Bury the Trash · Jan 3, 2021

Rowland said:
I’m not disputing this but a quick search put ag at the top of many lists of most dangerous jobs

trouble is when when something goes wrong at sea you cant just stand back or walk away.
and must be harder for nearest and dearest to morn if a persons body isn't found.
air sea rescue isnt as comprehensive as it used to be either., flippin restructuring.
RNLI are as good as ever though .

yellowbelly · Jan 3, 2021

Rowland said:
Is it as dangerous as farming as a job ?

I reckon so - you get a fuel problem in the middle of a 40 acre field in the pissin' rain you just get wet walking home.

You get a fuel problem in the middle of the North Sea, you're in the lap of the Gods.

Hilly · Jan 3, 2021

ARW said:
Is there a fisherman’s forum where they are saying we have it easy?

He didn’t say they did he asked , their is a difference .

Rowland · Jan 3, 2021

yellowbelly said:
I reckon so - you get a fuel problem in the middle of a 40 acre field in the pissin' rain you just get wet walking home.

You get a fuel problem in the middle of the North Sea, you're in the lap of the Gods.

Yhea you make sure you have a basic supply of mechanical bits and bobs on board surely!

thorpe · Jan 3, 2021

yellowbelly said:
I don't care how fudgin' tough farming gets - you won't find me swapping a tractor for a trawler

Bloody heroes the lot of 'em, they're very welcome to it and I wish 'em all the luck in the world.

hope the engine dont get ecu problems like our tractors!

Hilly · Jan 3, 2021

Rowland said:
Yhea you make sure you have a basic supply of mechanical bits and bobs on board surely!

Sod’s law takes over .

Al R · Jan 3, 2021

Rowland said:
I’m not disputing this but a quick search put ag at the top of many lists of most dangerous jobs

Per thousand head I would say sea far riskier. Using seriously sharp knives day in day out on an object that never keeps still, 1 foot wrong and the pot ropes pull you in and you’d never pull them back in quick enough. I know someone that had a new lad working with him who put the pot rope not in the usual loop and my friend got pulled down while he was gutting, he got pulled in as the pots went out and managed to use his knife to cut the rope around his ankle. He lost 40 odd pots in that string but he said another few seconds he would’ve been to deep or out of breath to come back up

Rowland · Jan 3, 2021

It’s not the dangerous part of the job that’s the issue. Put cones out on a motorway if you want that .

Al R · Jan 3, 2021

Rowland said:
Yhea you make sure you have a basic supply of mechanical bits and bobs on board surely!

All that I know have secondary engines. Often just a small one that will get them to safety. Dodgy stuff when it’s pitch black out and there is literally no other lights to be seen - I often see them when out lamping or lambing and it’s only me and them with lights on, no houses, no cars, nothing

ollie989898 · Jan 3, 2021

kiwi pom said:
I think NZ commercial boats have or will have cameras and electronic catch and location reporting, to make sure they don't break the rules and catch anything they shouldn't.

Sooo 24 hour monitoring or one day a year from the RT inspector?

NZ had the right idea about their fisheries years ago. No fudger can fish certain areas and that is the end of it.

yellowbelly · Jan 3, 2021

Rowland said:
Yhea you make sure you have a basic supply of mechanical bits and bobs on board surely!

Maybe so, but I still wouldn't swap places

Tomr10 · Jan 3, 2021

thorpe said:
hope the engine dont get ecu problems like our tractors!

Add blue ?

kfpben · Jan 3, 2021

A good friend of mine at Uni was from Shetland and his brother was a trawlerman.

He said they were only permitted to go to see 15 days a month due to quota so a fair bit of time off. A calm sea and a good catch and he said it felt like the easiest job in the world. Very good money can be made.

However when it’s a force ten, snowing and it’s so rough you don’t know if you’ll survive the night it’s horrendous.

Rowland · Jan 3, 2021

It’s the investment I’m on about!
they put nowt in but just take from the sea on the whole

kiwi pom · Jan 3, 2021

I don't know whether fishing is easy or not but I'd say a day or a week on a fishing boat is at least as hard as a day or a week as a farmer.
Farming perhaps has a bigger financial risk but is it really that hard these days?

Can you inherit a fishing boat, I suppose so?

Rowland · Jan 3, 2021

kfpben said:
A good friend of mine at Uni was from Shetland and his brother was a trawlerman.

He said they were only permitted to go to see 15 days a month due to quota so a fair bit of time off. A calm sea and a good catch and he said it felt like the easiest job in the world. Very good money can be made.

However when it’s a force ten, snowing and it’s so rough you don’t know if you’ll survive the night it’s horrendous.

Thats a choice and weather forecasts are much better these days along with the trawlers . You wouldn’t get me on one in a year of sundays

Rowland · Jan 3, 2021

kiwi pom said:
I don't know whether fishing is easy or not but I'd say a day or a week on a fishing boat is at least as hard as a day or a week as a farmer.
Farming perhaps has a bigger financial risk but is it really that hard these days?

Can you inherit a fishing boat, I suppose so?

You can inherit anything

Al R · Jan 3, 2021

Rowland said:
It’s the investment I’m on about!
they put nowt in but just take from the sea on the whole

Lol
£80+ per pot for good pots. 150 per string. All that rope in between your talking £13-£15k per string, 4-5 strings wouldn’t be a big task, I’m sure there’s a few near me running 1500 pots. Boat costing £80k, £10-20k of GPS equipment. Storage boxes galore, winches etc, 2 people full time, sometimes a third. I bet the guy I see out all the time would have more moneys worth tied up than I do with over 1500 ewes

JohnGalway · Jan 3, 2021

Two lads I know went out fishing. They were talking away, when one didn't reply the other turned around. Gone. Just like that.

4 men in a trawler made an ill advised dash to Aran just before a storm hit. They never arrived.

Another boat hit rocks off the cost here at night, no survivors.

My late father and uncle fished for years. We used bring sheep out to an island to fatten them. Coming back one time a rope got tangled around the prop. I was exiled to the wheelhouse so as not to get in the way. I remember my Dad & uncle holding the legs of another man as he dangled over the end of the boat, a knife tied to a gaff hook to try and cut the thing free. All the while we were bobbing around getting closer and closer to the rocks. Not fun.

Neighbours of ours lost power one day, they were missing for days and were eventually found ok way down the coast off another county.

Yep, it's a cushy number!

Rowland · Jan 3, 2021

Al R said:
Lol
£80+ per pot for good pots. 150 per string. All that rope in between your talking £13-£15k per string, 4-5 strings wouldn’t be a big task, I’m sure there’s a few near me running 1500 pots. Boat costing £80k, £10-20k of GPS equipment. Storage boxes galore, winches etc, 2 people full time, sometimes a third. I bet the guy I see out all the time would have more moneys worth tied up than I do with over 1500 ewes

£ 150k ! How much land would that buy . Then gear to use on it along with seed fert sprays.Or Stocking it with livestock

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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