Bagged nut under weight

Bury the Trash · Feb 6, 2021

I think you will find that what ever the big bags weighed , you paid for ie 990kg. Or if it was say 2 of them at 525kg and 510kg you would pay for 1035kg, big bags supply is slightly different .
But Buying in small bags is a pretty inefficient way of doing it let's face it.

and of course it goes without saying that the Best way if your using a reasonable amount is minimum order bulk.

Al R · Feb 6, 2021

Bury the Trash said:
I think you will find that what ever the big bags weighed , you paid for ie 990kg. Or if it was say 2 of them at 525kg and 510kg you would pay for 1035kg, big bags supply is slightly different .
But Buying in small bags is a pretty inefficient way of doing it let's face it.

and of course it goes without saying that the Best way if your using a reasonable amount is minimum order bulk.

Obviously bulk is best but not always easy if your limited on space etc. I have a few pallets around my corn area of my gp/lambing shed. I’ve moved the pallets a few times since they arrived a few weeks ago. Today they needed moving so the electrician could take the electric circuit apart to change a faulty trip, had I had bulk they would’ve been in the way

£40/t in bags when I don’t use many is cheaper than a bigger shed. Everyone’s case is different though

Bury the Trash · Feb 6, 2021

3 to 4 tonne ex grain trailer is what I use if I need to.
Semi roofed in the front to catch the blast from the blower etc and pladtic trailer sheet covering the rest . Stub pipe welded on the tail for blower pipe to connect to.
Takes a minimum load and very flexible for storage as it can be moved to the lorry etc and around as needed, and not rats or birds fed .
Either Collecting from the mill if not too far saves a few quid as well of course.

Bury the Trash · Feb 6, 2021

What I meant was that they weigh them big bags on the weigh bridge after the batcher and before loading
Dont forget Pellet batches vary as well volume verses weight as well even with the same ingredients .

Pistonbroke · Feb 7, 2021

Bury the Trash said:
What I meant was that they weigh them big bags on the weigh bridge after the batcher and before loading
Dont forget Pellet batches vary as well volume verses weight as well even with the same ingredients .

What I wonder is how to get 35 kg more cake into a smaller bag. The ones we had were full to the brim, a foot taller and several inches wider. Like getting a quart Into a pint pot. If it was whole maize in one and rolled barley in the other,fair enough but both holding 6mm nuts

Al R · Feb 7, 2021

Pistonbroke said:
What I wonder is how to get 35 kg more cake into a smaller bag. The ones we had were full to the brim, a foot taller and several inches wider. Like getting a quart Into a pint pot. If it was whole maize in one and rolled barley in the other,fair enough but both holding 6mm nuts

No idea? More molasses in his mix?

Pistonbroke · Feb 7, 2021

Al R said:
No idea? More molasses in his mix?

I think more likely is not the true weight. Not many people have a way to check the weight of a tote bag

cheggars · Feb 7, 2021

Matthew Britton said:
I think a calibrated weigh bridge or scale of some sort on most farms would pay for its self a lot quicker than most would think just by only paying for what is delivered rather than what they say it is on the ticket! fert is the same.

one of the Farms we used to buy Straw off , used to weigh everything coming onto the farm.
They said it easily paid for the weighbridge.

johnspeehs · Feb 7, 2021

Bury the Trash said:
I think you will find that what ever the big bags weighed , you paid for ie 990kg. Or if it was say 2 of them at 525kg and 510kg you would pay for 1035kg, big bags supply is slightly different .
But Buying in small bags is a pretty inefficient way of doing it let's face it.

and of course it goes without saying that the Best way if your using a reasonable amount is minimum order bulk.

There is a very shrewd farmer not far from me who buys a big lot of bagged feed, he says if you buy 25 kg bags that's exactly what you are feeding out but if you buy bulk and run it into bags to go round young stock etc you end up giving them far more than you intended plus all the hassle.

Matthew Britton · Feb 7, 2021

johnspeehs said:
There is a very shrewd farmer not far from me who buys a big lot of bagged feed, he says if you buy 25 kg bags that's exactly what you are feeding out but if you buy bulk and run it into bags to go round young stock etc you end up giving them far more than you intended plus all the hassle.

That’s ok if you are really getting 25kgs! Equally I would argue that at (when I left the U.K.) a £40 premium for buying bags would not take long to set your self up with a decent system for bagging and weighing bulk feed.

Pistonbroke · Feb 7, 2021

johnspeehs said:
There is a very shrewd farmer not far from me who buys a big lot of bagged feed, he says if you buy 25 kg bags that's exactly what you are feeding out but if you buy bulk and run it into bags to go round young stock etc you end up giving them far more than you intended plus all the hassle.

Countrywide rep used to supply a large estate with 100tons of ewe cake all in little bags for that reason. Did it at bulk price for taking artic loads when the plant wasn't busy

Highland Mule · Feb 7, 2021

Matthew Britton said:
That’s ok if you are really getting 25kgs! Equally I would argue that at (when I left the U.K.) a £40 premium for buying bags would not take long to set your self up with a decent system for bagging and weighing bulk feed.

And which group needs exactly 25, 50, 75 or 100kg a day? I just have a range of old buckets in different sizes and a set of luggage scales to work out what fits in what bucket.
Half an hour on a weekend evening gets the food bagged for the week - one small (5kg), one tubby (8kg) and one yellow (12kg) or whatever is needed to make a batch. Can’t think of any group that has an exact multiple of 25kg so I’d be over or under feeding if I used whole bags anyway.

bluebell · Feb 7, 2021

many years ago we used to sell rockery stone by weight with a set of big old avery scales, to the public at our gardencentre, this was in the days when trading standards were about, we alson sold ribbon by the yard, trading standards told off my dad for not having a proper yard stick for measuring the ribbon that was pennies per yard ? in the end easyest way to sell was not by weight in the rocks case but price per piece? the same way many greengroucers have adopted to sell fruit and veg, not by weight but by bowl of fruit, saves all the agro of having scales that could be not right ?

spanners and hammers · Feb 7, 2021

customs and excise would be the place to go all scales at companies selling by weight have to be weights and measures approved and in test/callibration ,,, builders bags are sold by volume and should be stated as such at the point of purchase

Al R · Feb 7, 2021

Highland Mule said:
And which group needs exactly 25, 50, 75 or 100kg a day? I just have a range of old buckets in different sizes and a set of luggage scales to work out what fits in what bucket.
Half an hour on a weekend evening gets the food bagged for the week - one small (5kg), one tubby (8kg) and one yellow (12kg) or whatever is needed to make a batch. Can’t think of any group that has an exact multiple of 25kg so I’d be over or under feeding if I used whole bags anyway.

I use different colour bags - get them off neighbours for different batches. Plus it’s easier to tell people who don’t know that x colour goes to such and such. Otherwise milled cattle feed would go to sheep

spanners and hammers · Feb 7, 2021

dad use to repair the coal trucks that use to go round the north and sell by the bag with a scale to bag off on the back .. if the driver forgot to remove it there was often a little bit of scrap metal in the scale to adjust the weight in the sellers favour

Pistonbroke · Feb 7, 2021

Al R said:
I use different colour bags - get them off neighbours for different batches. Plus it’s easier to tell people who don’t know that x colour goes to such and such. Otherwise milled cattle feed would go to sheep

Kids disinfected a pen in the shed using minerals instead of stalosan last night

Highland Mule · Feb 7, 2021

Pistonbroke said:
Kids disinfected a pen in the shed using minerals instead of stalosan last night

I feel your pain. Young lad fed tups’ food to my stirks today. Not as much hassle as it could be - they can do without the minerals for one feed.

Bury the Trash · Feb 7, 2021

johnspeehs said:
There is a very shrewd farmer not far from me who buys a big lot of bagged feed, he says if you buy 25 kg bags that's exactly what you are feeding out but if you buy bulk and run it into bags to go round young stock etc you end up giving them far more than you intended plus all the hassle.

increases plastic use tho that's the trouble as well.rats get at them bags as well

Pistonbroke · Feb 7, 2021

Highland Mule said:
I feel your pain. Young lad fed tups’ food to my stirks today. Not as much hassle as it could be - they can do without the minerals for one feed.

Could have been worse, could have put disinfectant in the feed

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