Other industries and footpaths

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Have written it before, why would you expand or in any way develop a yard on or near a footpath if you have other land available? Build new sheds well away from the public (planning justified on safety grounds) and then sell off the old ones for housing. Sure it’s more tricky for a tenant, but must be a no brainer for a land owner.
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
No it is his land. Council told him to stop. Not sure on all the ins and outs of it though. I do not understand the problem myself, surely he can fence the fields in to paddocks that just happen to line up with the footpaths. People still have the views across the fields, the will just be made to stay on the path! I know the chap doing the fencing and he was given a hard time by people.
Not much experience with other councils, but we are covered by South Oxon district council that seem to be one of the most difficult councils in the land!
Public have to many rights
 
Location
cumbria
Footpaths arnt the problem, it's 5% of the people that use them.

Apart from the fence cutters, the ones that make me wonder about the future of humanity are the picnic types. The ones that just get up and walk away leaving all their detritus behind.
I mean, they must have carried the stuff there and whats going on in their heads that makes it acceptable to just walk away from🤷🏻‍♂️
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Footpaths arnt the problem, it's 5% of the people that use them.

Apart from the fence cutters, the ones that make me wonder about the future of humanity are the picnic types. The ones that just get up and walk away leaving all their detritus behind.
I mean, they must have carried the stuff there and whats going on in their heads that makes it acceptable to just walk away from🤷🏻‍♂️
Yep, like most things its the stupid 5% that are the problem
 

theboytheboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Portsmouth
I see no difference between a farmyard, and an industrial estate. Lottery money will be spent here trying to get my FP diverted round the back of the buildings. If that fails.....ugly fencing it is.
Folks are sh!t hot on elf and safety on this forum, yet FP's through farmyards don't register on the list. 🤷‍♂️
Out council are not accepting applications to divert even if I had the money. Been like this for a long time now.
 

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Mark Hatton

Staff Member
Media
Location
Yorkshire
Foot paths through open fields with livestock in is one thing, but it’s ridiculous to allow the general public to access through a working farm yard just because a footpath has always been there, in today’s world of litigation you’d think that the HSE and NFU would be working together lobbying councils and central Government to allow footpaths to be diverted around farms on safety grounds alone, the worlds gone mad, anyone with half a brain can see the potential risks and that common sense would dictate moving them is the right thing to do for everyone involved.
 

theboytheboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Portsmouth
Genuine question.
If you write to Rights of way and ask for a path to be moved on grounds of safety. They refuse you. There is then an accident. Where would they stand?
Pretty sure when I looked into it, our council application asked you to tick a box to provide a reason. Security and health and safety didn't seem to be options from my memory.

I would love to be able to pass the health and safety issue over to them.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Have written it before, why would you expand or in any way develop a yard on or near a footpath if you have other land available? Build new sheds well away from the public (planning justified on safety grounds) and then sell off the old ones for housing. Sure it’s more tricky for a tenant, but must be a no brainer for a land owner.
If the footpath coincides with the farm road through the yard then why I should have to create another farm road and have to rejig the layout of the farmyard just to suit a handful of walkers per month? It’s no hardship, in fact is it’s more pleasant for the walkers to bypass the farmyard as most of them do. They are all fine with it, yet if it was put to consultation then you can be sure that some politico from miles away would object to a diversion just because they can. So we don’t give them the satisfaction and waste our own and taxpayers money.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I'd bet money that my 15th Century farmstead was here long before the footpaths.
The difference is, they were used by locals, who had some common sense, livestock more docile ( only guessing ) and big machinery did not exist. That said, my father witnessed 2 people killed by horse and carts in 2 separate incidents. Maybe accidents where just an accepted part of life ?
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I'd bet money that my 15th Century farmstead was here long before the footpaths.
The difference is, they were used by locals, who had some common sense, livestock more docile ( only guessing ) and big machinery did not exist. That said, my father witnessed 2 people killed by horse and carts in 2 separate incidents. Maybe accidents where just an accepted part of life ?
The paths here were used by farm workers to get to work. Nobody walked through the farm just for the sake of it. Walking was a means to an end. Now it’s an activity for folk with nowt better to do.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Footpaths arnt the problem, it's 5% of the people that use them.

Apart from the fence cutters, the ones that make me wonder about the future of humanity are the picnic types. The ones that just get up and walk away leaving all their detritus behind.
I mean, they must have carried the stuff there and whats going on in their heads that makes it acceptable to just walk away from🤷🏻‍♂️
My neighbour posted on Facebook that he discovered a campervan in his field on Saturday, bloke had the picnic table out, kettle on, and wearing flip flops. He was escorted " agriculturally " out of the field. Had to laugh, the bloke really picked the wrong farmer to try that out.😂😂😂😂😂
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
My neighbour posted on Facebook that he discovered a campervan in his field on Saturday, bloke had the picnic table out, kettle on, and wearing flip flops. He was escorted " agriculturally " out of the field. Had to laugh, the bloke really picked the wrong farmer to try that out.😂😂😂😂😂

Mrs NeilO found exactly the same here yesterday, parked up under a tree in one of my lambing paddocks. They didn't stay to finish their picnic either...
 

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