Other industries and footpaths

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
I often see it written here that other industries don't have to tolerate public access/you wouldn't have a foot path through a factory.

So I thought this was interesting.

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A multimillion pound cold store and distribution center with a public footpath right through the middle. Since the satellite image was taken the new shed to the east of the path has been completed.

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A zebra crossing showing the interaction of pedestrians and arctic trucks.

And no subsidy for the distribution center.
 

Goweresque

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Location
North Wilts
Thats hardly comparable is it? You'd need to find a footpath that went straight through a factory floor or warehouse, so that walkers could just wander between all the machinery and workers at will.

And what do you think would be the response of government if farmers started fencing every footpath like that, with 2m steel fencing either side of it? Do you think they'd just let it happen, or would they legislate to stop it?
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Thats hardly comparable is it? You'd need to find a footpath that went straight through a factory floor or warehouse, so that walkers could just wander between all the machinery and workers at will.

And what do you think would be the response of government if farmers started fencing every footpath like that, with 2m steel fencing either side of it? Do you think they'd just let it happen, or would they legislate to stop it?
Try it and see? I remember walking a farm near Harper that had all the footpaths fully fenced
 

Fendt516profi

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Thats hardly comparable is it? You'd need to find a footpath that went straight through a factory floor or warehouse, so that walkers could just wander between all the machinery and workers at will.

And what do you think would be the response of government if farmers started fencing every footpath like that, with 2m steel fencing either side of it? Do you think they'd just let it happen, or would they legislate to stop it?
2m? Wants to be at least 3m and a roof on to stop them climbing out
 

hally

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Location
cumbria
I concur. Industrial fencing is the answer. :cool:
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

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This is the only thing some of them understand.
Spoke to a guy in amongst my sheep this morning with 5 red setters running loose. He was adamant they were under control and to be fair they were along side him but agreed to put them on a lead next time in my sheep.......so there are occasional sensible ones.
 

hally

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Location
cumbria
2m? Wants to be at least 3m and a roof on to stop them climbing out
I've a lease block with the foot paths fully fenced. Why would farmers be stopped from protecting the public by fencing cattle off footpaths?
Ramblers are vehemently against it. Local farm up the wall from here had a guy killed by a cow, so naturally wanted all the footpaths fenced off but is getting nowhere with the Roman wall and ramblers. We fenced some of our wall path off a few years ago because of an incident but they would not let us fence off some key parts of the route so the ramblers come on board with that. So we took off cows on that section and had natural England contact us worried about the decline in the suckler herd in the area......you couldn’t make it up. We are pretty much resigned to the fact cows are finished here within the next few years or the next major incident that happens, luckily I am at an age to not be too bothered and the next generation doesn’t want to farm....thank god.
4 more cow dispersals at Hexham next week!!!!
 

hally

Member
Location
cumbria
I see no difference between a farmyard, and an industrial estate. Lottery money will be spent here trying to get my FP diverted round the back of the buildings. If that fails.....ugly fencing it is.
Folks are sh!t hot on elf and safety on this forum, yet FP's through farmyards don't register on the list. 🤷‍♂️
Classic example here yesterday, path through the middle of our yard. I was moving a Freshly calved limmy cow from the calving shed into a straw shed just until this wet weather passes then she will go out. Opened the door but had a bit of a job getting her to go out as she was very protective and calf wouldn’t follow, before I got her out 30 people all ages walked right through the yard past the open door, luckily she hadn’t gone out so shut door and waited for them all the clear the yard. Two minute later a gang of middle class wan*ers on mountain bikes hurtled through the yard no respect for kids, livestock or anything else in there way, if they hadn’t vanished quickly a heated discussion on the merits of driving through my home at that speed would have ensued😤
 

7610 super q

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Arable Farmer
Location
Crapweathershire
Classic example here yesterday, path through the middle of our yard. I was moving a Freshly calved limmy cow from the calving shed into a straw shed just until this wet weather passes then she will go out. Opened the door but had a bit of a job getting her to go out as she was very protective and calf wouldn’t follow, before I got her out 30 people all ages walked right through the yard past the open door, luckily she hadn’t gone out so shut door and waited for them all the clear the yard. Two minute later a gang of middle class wan*ers on mountain bikes hurtled through the yard no respect for kids, livestock or anything else in there way, if they hadn’t vanished quickly a heated discussion on the merits of driving through my home at that speed would have ensued😤
My path isn't that well used, nor is it stuck to, which means folks can appear unexpectedly, and in odd places. Vision from tractors is OK, but I've had a few close calls with the Manitou catching sight of numpties in the mirror. :eek: I've got to get into the mindset of looking out for them constantly. Easier said than done. The new generation of ramblists don't seem to take much notice of their surroundings. Head down ( or burried in a map ) stomping along at 6 mph.........
Signs are a waste of time. Painting yellow pedestrian lines on mud and hardcore is a non starter. Diversion or fencing has to be the way forward.
 

Rejuvenating swards: Which option is best?

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Written by Brian McDonnell

Maintaining grass quality during mid-season grazing is important. Farmers can maintain quality by entering ideal grazing covers of 1,300 – 1,500kg DM/ha, and grazing down to a residual of 4cm every rotation.

If you are now in a situation where cows are not cleaning out paddocks as well as they should be, leading to the development of steamy grass within the sward, here are some options.

Common options for rejuvenating swards include:

  1. Take a silage cut, probably into bales, remove the material and start again with the aftermath...
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