Idea's thread for manufacturers

Flatlander · Aug 9, 2022

AnyOldName said:
Why can’t the genuine CAT part be made in China? Half the parts in the original machine will be made in there.

CAT is the all American success story. A household name and renounced for its long heritage of reliability and longevity. Not a Chinese knockoff. It did fit perfect and was identical to the original. It’s just I was surprised it was made in China.

Flatlander · Aug 9, 2022

I’d like to see manufacturers stock the dealer shelves with parts so availability isn’t a few days away and we then pay for shipping because it’s not part of a stock order. Seems now everything is in a central parts store the other side of the country. claas dealer here will now fill a crate with consumables and what ever parts you want and sit it on farm for free. Then at end of the season pay for what’s been used.

Deerefarmer · Aug 9, 2022

Claas and Krone both offer that, at least around here anyway

daveydiesel1 · Aug 9, 2022

kiwi pom said:
You're not going to get away with non emissions compliant engines in the UK but everything else you want exists. Depending on the size most manufacturers have a basic tractor.
Not many people order basic tractors in the UK but I'm fairly sure you could if you wanted to.

A "basic" tractor isnt really available anymore in anythin over 120hp in the uk

daveydiesel1 · Aug 9, 2022

Flatlander said:
I’d like to see manufacturers stock the dealer shelves with parts so availability isn’t a few days away and we then pay for shipping because it’s not part of a stock order. Seems now everything is in a central parts store the other side of the country. claas dealer here will now fill a crate with consumables and what ever parts you want and sit it on farm for free. Then at end of the season pay for what’s been used.

That is a good idea especially for those running a spfh

steveR · Aug 9, 2022

Flatlander said:
I’d like to see manufacturers stock the dealer shelves with parts so availability isn’t a few days away and we then pay for shipping because it’s not part of a stock order. Seems now everything is in a central parts store the other side of the country. claas dealer here will now fill a crate with consumables and what ever parts you want and sit it on farm for free. Then at end of the season pay for what’s been used.

So very true, even stuff like filters and the like...

I looked at a new 95hp tractor 3 years ago and was quite keen on another Kioti as the spec was what I wanted, and I know the build quality is excellent. However, all the parts are held in Holland now which dissuaded me from having it, as even then it took 2-3 days, and that was BEFORE all the Brexit crap got in the way.

primmiemoo · Aug 9, 2022

steveR said:
Fit one....?

Good idea

Might be a better option than holding the transistor radio to one ear.

Landrover · Aug 9, 2022

Not an idea for manufacturers but an idea for dealers is to train your sales reps to use the diagnostic equipment, if some all ready don't. The time that would save already overstretched mechanics and fitters would be unreal. Just my view though

Richard Smyth · Aug 9, 2022

daveydiesel1 said:
A "basic" tractor isnt really available anymore in anythin over 120hp in the uk

6m Deere seem very basic to me

Richard Smyth · Aug 9, 2022

Flatlander said:
I’d like to see manufacturers stock the dealer shelves with parts so availability isn’t a few days away and we then pay for shipping because it’s not part of a stock order. Seems now everything is in a central parts store the other side of the country. claas dealer here will now fill a crate with consumables and what ever parts you want and sit it on farm for free. Then at end of the season pay for what’s been used.

That would be nice. Consignment parts. Even if it was consignment on a designated farm in each area.

grimme can be hard work here. Have to be very lucky to get parts next day. Most likely 2-3 days. Also the importer don’t carry much stock here and a lot of parts will be stock ordered from Germany each Tuesday. They also don’t have dealers preferring to retail from the importer almost 600 km away

daveydiesel1 · Aug 9, 2022

Richard Smyth said:
6m Deere seem very basic to me

They are compared to a top spec 1 but they still have plenty of electrics

Richard Smyth · Aug 9, 2022

daveydiesel1 said:
They are compared to a top spec 1 but they still have plenty of electrics

Everything has electrics. Not much different in a 6m compared to a 6910 from 25 years ago.

not a place I like being anymore. 6195m is a horrid thing

steveR · Aug 9, 2022

primmiemoo said:
Good idea Might be a better option than holding the transistor radio to one ear.

Many, many moons ago, when I first started work, I fitted a car radio in my DB 1212, but instead of speakers, I connected the audio output to a set of headphones. Worked suprisingly well!

If you used noise cancelling headphones, then even better!!

Ben B · Aug 9, 2022

Richard Smyth said:
That would be nice. Consignment parts. Even if it was consignment on a designated farm in each area.

grimme can be hard work here. Have to be very lucky to get parts next day. Most likely 2-3 days. Also the importer don’t carry much stock here and a lot of parts will be stock ordered from Germany each Tuesday. They also don’t have dealers preferring to retail from the importer almost 600 km away

Seems to be an issue. The boys next door are ment to receive there new self propelled digger this season. They seemed to be jacking on the old one every afternoon.

melted welly · Aug 9, 2022

Richard Smyth said:
That would be nice. Consignment parts. Even if it was consignment on a designated farm in each area.

grimme can be hard work here. Have to be very lucky to get parts next day. Most likely 2-3 days. Also the importer don’t carry much stock here and a lot of parts will be stock ordered from Germany each Tuesday. They also don’t have dealers preferring to retail from the importer almost 600 km away

The dealer who we use for the combine has a second hand parts “library”. It’s a fantastic idea.

He’s got a stock of less common 2nd hand “bits” from scrapped/burnt machines in a container that wouldn’t typically be stocked. so if you end up with say a buggered wobble box, gear box, sieve actuator, loss monitor etc etc, chances are he’s got something similar on the shelf to bolt on to keep you going while you wait the overnight/2/3 day delivery. Reckon it saved us about 2 days cuttting last year when we had a run of angled gearboxes fail on our NH.

2wheels · Aug 9, 2022

Landrover said:
Not an idea for manufacturers but an idea for dealers is to train your sales reps to use the diagnostic equipment, if some all ready don't. The time that would save already overstretched mechanics and fitters would be unreal. Just my view though

isn't that a bit like seeing the practice nurse instead of the doctor and we all know how that is turning out.

2wheels · Aug 9, 2022

steveR said:
Many, many moons ago, when I first started work, I fitted a car radio in my DB 1212, but instead of speakers, I connected the audio output to a set of headphones. Worked suprisingly well!

If you used noise cancelling headphones, then even better!!

likewise.

steveR · Aug 9, 2022

Landrover said:
Not an idea for manufacturers but an idea for dealers is to train your sales reps to use the diagnostic equipment, if some all ready don't. The time that would save already overstretched mechanics and fitters would be unreal. Just my view though

Having had a Sales rep from a local company attempt to resolve a problem with a new baler and totally FU, I cannot say that idea would fill me full of happiness.

MontyK · Aug 9, 2022

Deerefarmer said:
As above. Those small details that would make a machine more user friendly.
Yes I know I could install this myself but....also realize today's machines are a major improvement over what our forefathers dealt with....
Anyway.... why can't I have an outlet for phone char4ger behind the passenger seat....and factory installed nonslip cladding... View attachment 1055044

Barleymow · Aug 9, 2022

steveR said:
Many, many moons ago, when I first started work, I fitted a car radio in my DB 1212, but instead of speakers, I connected the audio output to a set of headphones. Worked suprisingly well!

If you used noise cancelling headphones, then even better!!

I have noise cancelling headphones use in the combine and crawler Bluetooth to phone and built-in radio too

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