JCB TM320s vs Manitou MLA-T 533-145V pivot steer.

Sethieboy · Dec 26, 2022

Considering one of these machines, just wandering on other peoples experiences with them? The dealership for manitou has far better service and backup than jcb in our area!! Don't know much about the manitou but I hear many complaints about ad blue problems from jcb owners.
Many Thanks!

ollie989898 · Dec 26, 2022

Do you have more than 1 handler?

If the dealer presence and service is far better with Manitou then you already know the answer.

vantage · Dec 26, 2022

Riverlea are THE gold standard for service, pays your money and takes your choice regarding handler make.

Sethieboy · Dec 26, 2022

Currently have an 2006 TM300 with 6500hrs. Hardly missed a beat to be fair, brilliant machine! 1000-2000 hr second hand would be the ideal choice, not many second hand manitou's about. Andy mellor seems to have loads of jcb's on his yard. Having a demo manitou in january.
Riverlea are good!

davidroberts30 · Dec 26, 2022

mate has a manitou and has had a few electric gremlins, think they are about sorted now
know of another the sli was playing up after a upgrade
ad blu can be remapped out on jcb

tr250 · Dec 26, 2022

Eglwyswrwboy said:
Considering one of these machines, just wandering on other peoples experiences with them? The dealership for manitou has far better service and backup than jcb in our area!! Don't know much about the manitou but I hear many complaints about ad blue problems from jcb owners.
Many Thanks!

I’m no help really as I’ve got neither but I do fancy the manitou pivot steer to replace our old matbro but the price is fairly steep in comparison to a rigid machine. When we had our 635 it was £88k I think at the same time the pivot was about £110k

mtx.jag · Dec 26, 2022

Eglwyswrwboy said:
Currently have an 2006 TM300 with 6500hrs. Hardly missed a beat to be fair, brilliant machine! 1000-2000 hr second hand would be the ideal choice, not many second hand manitou's about. Andy mellor seems to have loads of jcb's on his yard. Having a demo manitou in january.
Riverlea are good!

Most the early new bendy vario manitou around us have had a transmission after pump failure. Riverlea have looked after them and all seem to be fine now.
must be 6 of them local to us,I would say jcb hold of the market is shrinking in our area mainly due to price and back up from the dealer your aware of

Also a lot of bobcat machines are pushing jcb out.

vantage · Dec 26, 2022

mtx.jag said:
Most the early new bendy vario manitou around us have had a transmission after pump failure. Riverlea have looked after them and all seem to be fine now.
must be 6 of them local to us,I would say jcb hold of the market is shrinking in our area mainly due to price and back up from the dealer your aware of Also a lot of bobcat machines are pushing jcb out.

Large local farm had a succession of 320s, got a MLA now after been told of a long wait. Headstock fallen off, Riverlea probably on the case!

vantage · Dec 26, 2022

davidroberts30 said:
mate has a manitou and has had a few electric gremlins, think they are about sorted now
know of another the sli was playing up after a upgrade
ad blu can be remapped out on jcb

Quite like the idea of a CVT transmission after driving hydrostatic ones. Damned if I know why JCB don’t fit the DualTec to the 320.

mtx.jag · Dec 26, 2022

vantage said:
Large local farm had a succession of 320s, got a MLA now after been told of a long wait. Headstock fallen off, Riverlea probably on the case!

Place I pull trailers for has had at least 4 310/320s and now run a MLA along side a Case shovel. How is it that a 14t shovel comes in cheaper than a 320s

Hb21 · Dec 26, 2022

Went for another 320s because the manitou dealer isn't great. Did like the manitou though, bigger cab and more comfortable due to the rocking axle, narrowier boom. A few things on it just needing finishing better however.

AndrewB · Dec 26, 2022

Bought a manitou MLA last week to replace a JD 3800. Manitou has1400 hrs was available now, couldn’t get a new jcb until Mar/April and couldn’t get a low houred one. Had manitou on demo for a few weeks and it definitely grows on you with the CVT transmission. Better visibility than JCB. We’ve had manitou side booms for about 10 years and a have an excellent dealer locally.
Not sure if it will do the 15000 hours the JD managed.

Mad For Muck · Dec 26, 2022

I was in a similar situation a couple of years ago & bought the manitou, mainly down to the local jcb dealer being poor & the manitou dealer being very good, the manitou was also much cheaper than the jcb think it was about £30k cheaper! Think it’s done about 1500 hours now with no major issues, seems to have plenty of power & the cab does feel bigger compared to tm (not sure if it actually is or not) I’ve driven both & wasn’t blown away by the tm, there’s improvements that should be made on the manitou, the heater controls on that stupid scroll menu is ridiculous but apart from that can’t find much else to fault it on, would definitely buy another

Chuckie · Dec 26, 2022

21 plate jcb in a sale next month near Lancaster

milkloss · Dec 26, 2022

Last when we looked the manitou was way too tall to fit in some of our buildings. Not sure that's the case now though.

Spud · Dec 26, 2022

We've run a series of Matbros, then a TM300 JCB that we put 12000hrs on in 15yrs with very little bother. Before it came we demo'd Terex, JD3800, Manitou & JCB. No contest. The Manitou back then lacked reach (rather than height) due to the backplate being in line with the front of the axle, rather than front of the tyres at full height. Otherwise not bad, if not as well screwed together as the JCB.
In 2020 we decided to upgrade the TM, and once again demo'd Mainitou. We all universally thought the JCB was better, in every way. Build, drivability, comfort, reach, ground clearance, accessibility and down right performance. The hydro on the Manitou is a pain for jobs like loading bales in fields, or anything where both speed and precision are called for. Nowt in them price wise, and I'd be pretty sure that the yellow one will be worth more down the line. Both dealers decent so not a factor here.

ollie989898 · Dec 26, 2022

Spud said:
We've run a series of Matbros, then a TM300 JCB that we put 12000hrs on in 15yrs with very little bother. Before it came we demo'd Terex, JD3800, Manitou & JCB. No contest. The Manitou back then lacked reach (rather than height) due to the backplate being in line with the front of the axle, rather than front of the tyres at full height. Otherwise not bad, if not as well screwed together as the JCB.
In 2020 we decided to upgrade the TM, and once again demo'd Mainitou. We all universally thought the JCB was better, in every way. Build, drivability, comfort, reach, ground clearance, accessibility and down right performance. The hydro on the Manitou is a pain for jobs like loading bales in fields, or anything where both speed and precision are called for. Nowt in them price wise, and I'd be pretty sure that the yellow one will be worth more down the line. Both dealers decent so not a factor here.

Wat- surely a hydrostatic transmission will give you better precision and control than a tQ?

ACEngineering · Dec 26, 2022

milkloss said:
Last when we looked the manitou was way too tall to fit in some of our buildings. Not sure that's the case now though.

you will be thinking of the mla 630 which was not a good machine at all and should be avoided. current MLA 533 is totally different.

Spud · Dec 26, 2022

ollie989898 said:
Wat- surely a hydrostatic transmission will give you better precision and control than a tQ?

Not in a practical way, no. The Manitou has a big dial where one sets the maximum speed, which for precision (placing bales on a trailer, inching up to a lorry, filling a spreader, filling a grader etc) one would set quite low. However, if one has distance to travel between bucketfuls (long shed, field olading etc) then the precise speed is far too slow to get on. Set fast its rev rev rev whoooaa! Just a ballache to drive, particularly with multi drivers. That semi auto powershift in the TM is superb. Don't need the hassle or cost of a DualTech thanks. Simple = best

Down farmer · Dec 26, 2022

Spud said:
Not in a practical way, no. The Manitou has a big dial where one sets the maximum speed, which for precision (placing bales on a trailer, inching up to a lorry, filling a spreader, filling a grader etc) one would set quite low. However, if one has distance to travel between bucketfuls (long shed, field olading etc) then the precise speed is far too slow to get on. Set fast its rev rev rev whoooaa! Just a ballache to drive, particularly with multi drivers. That semi auto powershift in the TM is superb. Don't need the hassle or cost of a DualTech thanks. Simple = best

I had a JCB 320 for several years and now have about 1500 hrs on a manitou 533 with absolutely no problems ( sensor or two initially) I find the transmission on the red much superior to the jcb (similarly paintwork) because it’s for a start same speed backwards as forwards unlike the jcb and much smoother than changing gears ,speed dial is not an issue I only use if at 20km speed keeps it from changing up ,can also use it on silo pit to give more revs/km climbing but definitely no problem inching .Only problem at start is getting used to no free wheeling,visibility is much superior in manitou over the one door jcb and it has an air con unlike jcb which does work ,I leave it on automatic and do not find the controls an issue ,would I buy manitou or jcb definitely would be the manitou and yes the dealer is good which is reassuring

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