36 foot low loader

[Fendtbro]

So now the mad hay baling mission is finally over, I am faced with 1200 4x4's on mostly very steep ground to gather and cart 5 miles to winter storage.. Plenty tractors and 28 foot trailers but no-one apart from me to do it. Thinking about chopping in the oldest low-loader and building or having built a 36 footer low loader. 8 bales long instead of 6 obviously. Low loader essential as always shifting kit about and next trailer will definitely be completely galvanised. Ours are mostly rotten at 10 years old with the road salt up here..
The last tricky part is that I only want this on 2 axles as our triaxle puts little weight on the tractor and getting back up the steep hills is a big problem. Zig zagging up the fields with the scrub and weight of 3 axles is going to cause trouble. loader tractor only 130hp and not getting changed. Tyres want to be mini super singles 500 wide at least.. So has anyone on here ran a similar build of trailer? and who tackled the job? All apart from one manufacturer tried so far are saying they won't build this configuration! Ta

 

[Tim1989]

Kane beaver tail has been a good trailer Tri axle though

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Think you'll be wrong for drawbar weight / balance hence the manufacturers running a mile and why majority that size are now triaxle, the end of the day where you position those axles to get some weight on the drawbar but not too much is the clever bit as well as keeping axle loads right

 

[ED.D]

Speak to Philip Watkins, will build what you want to do what you want.
So long as it’s safe.

 

[Horn&corn]

130hp on 36’ loaded trailer would be 15t of straw if full height and tight bales. I hope it’s a gentle downhill road to get them home

 

[Fendtbro]

Think you'll be wrong for drawbar weight / balance hence the manufacturers running a mile and why majority that size are now triaxle, the end of the day where you position those axles to get some weight on the drawbar but not too much is the clever bit as well as keeping axle loads right

Thinking 3.5-4 ton on drawbar with 32 haylage bales on. Hay and straw will obviously load it less. Machines can be moved about to balance the trailer correctly. Wide track axles as possible and tyres right at the edge with chassis rails an inch from the inside tyre edge to keep the spring packs wide as possible.

 

[Fendtbro]

130hp on 36’ loaded trailer would be 15t of straw if full height and tight bales. I hope it’s a gentle downhill road to get them home

No, it's steep in every direction.. but only 2 bales high and they are always fairly soft. Tractor loader takes 5 at a time no bother so not heavy.

 

[GFA]

At 36 foot tri axle would be better for stability and would still have weight on drawbar or if you go for air suspension could have a lift front axle

 

[Fendtbro]

At 36 foot tri axle would be better for stability and would still have weight on drawbar or if you go for air suspension could have a lift front axle

True, I thought of that. More cost and weight tho.. Just not really seeing why a 36 footer doesn't work on 2 axles. Thinking a really strong box chassis will overcome any flex issues and many people must be in the same boat with bulky but light straw crops to shift. 36 foot has to be the way to go, I see Stewart are selling them.

 

[The Observer]

Thinking 3.5-4 ton on drawbar with 32 haylage bales on. Hay and straw will obviously load it less. Machines can be moved about to balance the trailer correctly. Wide track axles as possible and tyres right at the edge with chassis rails an inch from the inside tyre edge to keep the spring packs wide as possible.

3 ton would be the max legal weight on the hitch so perhaps that's why manufacturers aren't keen.

 

[The Observer]

No, it's steep in every direction.. but only 2 bales high and they are always fairly soft. Tractor loader takes 5 at a time no bother so not heavy.

Could you not spend the money on a better baler as solid bales would mean far less to gather up. Pet hate of mine wasting time and fuel doing extra trips due to soft bales.

 

[Fendtbro]

3 ton would be the max legal weight on the hitch so perhaps that's why manufacturers aren't keen.

Never saw a big trailer yet under 4 ton on the hook. Nothing for a bigger tractor and you need all the grip you can get..

 

[Fendtbro]

Could you not spend the money on a better baler as solid bales would mean far less to gather up. Pet hate of mine wasting time and fuel doing extra trips due to soft bales.

Well yes, But I am mostly baling hay here and most of the time it's not fit. Very low density is the only way it's going to get baled at all in a lot of cases. North of Scotland is not like being down south..

 

[KB6930]

1200 bales isn't very many our trailer currently shifts around 4000 rounds a year either 25 or 28 at a time depending on how it's loaded . It's a 6 long trailer

 

[Fendtbro]

1200 bales isn't very many our trailer currently shifts around 4000 rounds a year either 25 or 28 at a time depending on how it's loaded . It's a 6 long trailer

Yes, But i'd rather engineer my way out of having to sit in a tractor for no reason.. Too much other things to do and no spare labour available.

 

[Gil582]

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[Boohoo]

What's the unladen weight of a 36ft low loader going to be? It'll be a load for 130hp when it's empty.
Don't think you get 500 wide mini super singles, think 455 is as wide as they go.

 

[Abacus]

32 foot is the max legal length for draw bar trailer but air suspension with lift axel is the way to go with fast acting ride hight valve on each side, one left side of trailer and one right side, I have see trailers done like this and it works rely well so much so that the next trailer I do will be the same
A were of warning don't use a trailer on air with out doing the ride hight valve conversion or it will fall over

 

[Hilly]

True, I thought of that. More cost and weight tho.. Just not really seeing why a 36 footer doesn't work on 2 axles. Thinking a really strong box chassis will overcome any flex issues and many people must be in the same boat with bulky but light straw crops to shift. 36 foot has to be the way to go, I see Stewart are selling them.

To much drawbar weight is why , not allowed more than 3 ton legally iirc. .

 

[jg123]

Custom build 36ft galv low loader won't be cheap. Can you get a contractor in to help? Shift 1200 bales in a day or 2 depending on distance