Are Tilly pass on the right planet?

[graham mc]

its been said here before that they were heading in the wrong direction

we have used a local hgv for the last 2 years much better and better price but we dont get a sticker to show off

the idea was right but they just tried to become like red tractor and think they were the law and the rules setters

 

[Rich_ard]

im just going to pick one hole in that statement, though i feel it is important.
There is NO requirement for a QUALIFIED ENGINEER (whatever one of those is)
The person maintaining the trailer MUST be competent, and you may need to prove this.
Proving competency is not that hard, providing youve maintained the trailer properly. If you do a sloppy job, someone asks for evidence of your competence, you can hardly say "well look at my work"
On the other hand, if you do it properly, you can cite many things to prove your competency, including
-reading this thread
-watching you tube videos on trailer maintenance (and other things)
-going to night school
-spending time with your mate whilst he maintains some local HGVs

you get the idea, there are many ways, and i didnt want people thinkingcome a qualified engineer"
hope that makes sense

the rest of what they say, i fully concur with, and to be fair, ive picked a hole in a pedantic use of two words. im not trying to be awkward!

Take a few photos if you're ever in the work shop doing any maintenance.

I remember something about if the hook is over a certain thickness (15mm?) It can be used for straps

I didn't think it was anything to do with the hook on the trailer it's the hook on the strap and ratchet. They split open when under extreme strain. The little weld gives way and open out. Iv no evidence or proof that the case, but iv seen them do it!

 

[Chuckie]

Take a few photos if you're ever in the work shop doing any maintenance.

I didn't think it was anything to do with the hook on the trailer it's the hook on the strap and ratchet. They split open when under extreme strain. The little weld gives way and open out. Iv no evidence or proof that the case, but iv seen them do it!

To clarify, I meant when using straps with d rings on the end.

 

[Rich_ard]

To clarify, I meant when using straps with d rings on the end.

In my mind the d ring would be ok. I know nothing about the legals of it though. Once speaking to a lorry driver he said you can't put a hook on a hook! And in my experience that makes sense.

 

[Steevo]

In my mind the d ring would be ok. I know nothing about the legals of it though. Once speaking to a lorry driver he said you can't put a hook on a hook! And in my experience that makes sense.

I don't think the hook on a hook logic is very solid. The issue is the ratchet strap hooks are just a loop of steel with a tiny weld holding them together which is subject to the whole load and is the only thing holding it from splitting. It's not designed to take the whole load at that point.

A d ring is fully solid and welded and is designed to take the load in the right place.

Furthermore, most trailer "hooks" are only rope hooks and are also not designed to take the force of a ratchet strap.

 

[ollie989898]

Take a few photos if you're ever in the work shop doing any maintenance.

I didn't think it was anything to do with the hook on the trailer it's the hook on the strap and ratchet. They split open when under extreme strain. The little weld gives way and open out. Iv no evidence or proof that the case, but iv seen them do it!

If the hook on a ratchet stap is giving way then it isn't fit for purpose at the given load rating of the strap. The HSE should be insisting people manufacturing such devices are testing and rating them correctly.

 

[Sharpy]

If the hook on a ratchet stap is giving way then it isn't fit for purpose at the given load rating of the strap. The HSE should be insisting people manufacturing such devices are testing and rating them correctly.

Problem is they are not being used correctly, people are using the loop in the hook as an eye instead of using a D ring, this spreads the hook and pulls the tiny weld apart. Inappropriate use of claw ends is the issue.

 

[roscoe erf]

Take a few photos if you're ever in the work shop doing any maintenance.

I didn't think it was anything to do with the hook on the trailer it's the hook on the strap and ratchet. They split open when under extreme strain. The little weld gives way and open out. Iv no evidence or proof that the case, but iv seen them do it!

It’s to do with the hook vosa say they have had no proof load and no swl stamp so can’t work out in their tiny little minds if your load is secure.
the point you make about the hook opening up on the ratchet is a valid one and not allowed to be used that way

 

[ollie989898]

It’s to do with the hook vosa say they have had no proof load and no swl stamp so can’t work out in their tiny little minds if your load is secure.
the point you make about the hook opening up on the ratchet is a valid one and not allowed to be used that way

Hook= safe.

Hole= dodgy.

Rust= it'll be ok this time.

I think most folk can appreciate that.

 

[roscoe erf]

If the hook on a ratchet stap is giving way then it isn't fit for purpose at the given load rating of the strap. The HSE should be insisting people manufacturing such devices are testing and rating them correctly.

They do it’s misuse that will cause that failure no fault of the manufacturer

 

[DrWazzock]

Anchorage points on ag trailers are either non existent or pee poor in my experience. But mine are “older models”.