B~~~~y Environment Agency

Lincs Lass

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Location
north lincs
Asked my nieghbor who works at Skydive club up the road , if he can can get some aerial pictures of the damage down round Brigg .
Apparently they lock gates at South Ferriby were blocked with a sunken boat which is why they didn't let the Ancholme go and by the time they had cleared it ,the humber was rising again .
Then when they did open the gates ,they couldn't shut them properly .
Another EA cock up ,they had new gates installed not long ago .
 
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The EA should be beaten repeatedly with a red tractor until they realise, we are getting more rain and you can’t just bury your head in the sand in the hope it will be magically swallow it up by the ground. So all the water voles can live happily ever after, in their highly confused ditches that don’t know whether they should identify as a water cause or narrow stretches of jungle crisscrossing this wet and soggy land.
 

Fubar

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I'm looking forward to my remote inspection report asking why I haven't established a green cover on all of my land! Their text books probably don't allow for wet autumns.
 

Skimmer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Notts
Welcome to my world
 

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Lazy Eric

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The EA should be beaten repeatedly with a red tractor until they realise, we are getting more rain and you can’t just bury your head in the sand in the hope it will be magically swallow it up by the ground. So all the water voles can live happily ever after, in their highly confused ditches that don’t know whether they should identify as a water cause or narrow stretches of jungle crisscrossing this wet and soggy land.
Believe it or not we’re not getting anymore rain according to the 50 year average, just not as spread out over the 12 months as we are used to. So when it rains, it really rains. I’ve noticed we are getting longer dry spells, but not necessarily in summer.
 

tw15

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Location
DORSET
We all know what their answer will be . We will spend millions on a independent enquiry but not do anything in the end as we wont have any money left . We all know the fen drains / rivers /dykes need to be kept maintained all the way to the sea .
It don't take a genius to work out what to do, you start at the sea and work back and if heavy rain is forecast pump like mad to lower rivers and drains ready for the influx . Environment agency need a good kick up the arse.
 

Case290

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Worcestershire
I’m higher than the sea and still get flooded Because they’re not maintaining any of their controlled water ways its now flooding worse & worse. Even the local council drainage chap wants them done but told me to just give up there never do anything. I think they should start with the smaller ditches and work their way up to the rivers. (Not really I think they should do them all) now hs2 is nearly cancelled there be plenty of kit about to do it.
 

Pushdyke

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We all know what their answer will be . We will spend millions on a independent enquiry but not do anything in the end as we wont have any money left . We all know the fen drains / rivers /dykes need to be kept maintained all the way to the sea .
It don't take a genius to work out what to do, you start at the sea and work back and if heavy rain is forecast pump like mad to lower rivers and drains ready for the influx . Environment agency need a good kick up the arse.

You've hit the nail on the head there .

They have to start at the sea, and be able to get the river water into the sea before flooding occurs further inland
 

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
We all know what their answer will be . We will spend millions on a independent enquiry but not do anything in the end as we wont have any money left . We all know the fen drains / rivers /dykes need to be kept maintained all the way to the sea .
It don't take a genius to work out what to do, you start at the sea and work back and if heavy rain is forecast pump like mad to lower rivers and drains ready for the influx . Environment agency need a good kick up the arse.
I'm glad you said that. While searching for something else (I think it was the Land Drainage Acts) I came across a statement from AE or something similar that ditches should be cleaned from the top end (i.e. upstream) down. I thought "that's rubbish. But it's official so it must be right".:)

I had discussions about this years ago with my drainage contractor. It is almost dead flat here and he assured me you start from the lowest point, i.e. sea level, and clean the ditch going back up stream using the water in the ditch to indicate the level. He cleaned all the ditches around here and was at it more-or-less full time. He is long dead and his son, who took over, is now retired. So, doing it for over 50 years? My land, which previously flooded is now dry, but my neighbour's floods (he has his own machine). I've suggested cleaning his ditches as above (lowest point up) but he says his man likes to clean from the top down -- so it still floods. They say stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.
 
We all know what their answer will be . We will spend millions on a independent enquiry but not do anything in the end as we wont have any money left . We all know the fen drains / rivers /dykes need to be kept maintained all the way to the sea .
It don't take a genius to work out what to do, you start at the sea and work back and if heavy rain is forecast pump like mad to lower rivers and drains ready for the influx . Environment agency need a good kick up the arse.

Exactly, the EA can have their wetlands and water storage, but need to realise that once they are full the effect is the same as not having these areas. So the infrastructure needs to be maintained regardless.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I'm glad you said that. While searching for something else (I think it was the Land Drainage Acts) I came across a statement from AE or something similar that ditches should be cleaned from the top end (i.e. upstream) down. I thought "that's rubbish. But it's official so it must be right".:)

I had discussions about this years ago with my drainage contractor. It is almost dead flat here and he assured me you start from the lowest point, i.e. sea level, and clean the ditch going back up stream using the water in the ditch to indicate the level. He cleaned all the ditches around here and was at it more-or-less full time. He is long dead and his son, who took over, is now retired. So, doing it for over 50 years? My land, which previously flooded is now dry, but my neighbour's floods (he has his own machine). I've suggested cleaning his ditches as above (lowest point up) but he says his man likes to clean from the top down -- so it still floods. They say stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.
I always clean out ditches from the top down, very different countryside here though
 

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
I always clean out ditches from the top down, very different countryside here though
I don't think you will be on the Levels then! :ROFLMAO:

Dead flat sand here thrown up by a tsunami 8,500 years ago. The sand runs when wet but is stable when dry. Pipes simply clog both with sand and iron stone. Open ditches only.

Cleaning ditches from the top will cause water to back up when it meets your neighbour down stream. But that should allow you to take legal action against him for causing the back up. That's why I was searching the legislation. All it used to take was a Notice to be served on the lower neighbour. I couldn't find the relevant section which is why I was searching but as nothing has (apparently) been repealed it should still be there somewhere. I just used to copy the relevant section. Cuts out the idiots in the environment agencies except they probably think they over rule Parliament.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I don't think you will be on the Levels then! :ROFLMAO:

Dead flat sand here thrown up by a tsunami 8,500 years ago. The sand runs when wet but is stable when dry. Pipes simply clog both with sand and iron stone. Open ditches only.

Cleaning ditches from the top will cause water to back up when it meets your neighbour down stream. But that should allow you to take legal action against him for causing the back up. That's why I was searching the legislation. All it used to take was a Notice to be served on the lower neighbour. I couldn't find the relevant section which is why I was searching but as nothing has (apparently) been repealed it should still be there somewhere. I just used to copy the relevant section. Cuts out the idiots in the environment agencies except they probably think they over rule Parliament.
The water from here runs down to flood the levels or rather it used to untill the EA was kicked out down there and some work was actually done
 

bluebell

Member
The EA, are "clowns" to put it mildly, with had dealings with them, we have a stretch of the crouch up stream, that border some of our grazing, now floods more often, reason? choked up with dead, rubbish growth that blocks the flow, got to the extent that it was creating dams, that then undercut the livestock fencing? So last autumn we cleared out one section of the river, to help the flow past our portion, some "jobsworth" then turned up with a clipboard, demanding to know what i was up to? I showed him the "problem" and what we were doing? And how the flow was cutting under the fencing, i didnt like the attitude he showed? Just wait to the "introduced" beavers get going?
 

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