BBC and soya

Surgery

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Location
Oxford
I do like the part that the reporters are saying ‘most’ soya for vegetarian purposes comes from non gm strains and not from South America ! Right!

I suppose thou that at least they have highlighted concerns we all have thou on where it is now being grown.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I do like the part that the reporters are saying ‘most’ soya for vegetarian purposes comes from non gm strains and not from South America ! Right!

I suppose thou that at least they have highlighted concerns we all have thou on where it is now being grown.
I noticed this. Wondered how they could be sure the vegan stuff was segregated. In reality I’d say it probably all goes into and comes out of the same bing.
 

caveman

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East Sussex.
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No mention of percentage.
 

Bogweevil

Member
Warburtons say thus:

Soya flour

A natural whitener which improves the colour of white bread. It works well with oxygen to strengthen the dough and provides support and structure during baking. All our soya flour is identity preserved*.

*Identity preserved (IP) is the designation given to such bulk commodities marketed in a manner that isolates and preserves the identity of a shipment, presumably because of unique characteristics that have value otherwise lost through commingling during normal storage, handling and shipping procedures.
 

Surgery

Member
Location
Oxford
Warburtons say thus:

Soya flour

A natural whitener which improves the colour of white bread. It works well with oxygen to strengthen the dough and provides support and structure during baking. All our soya flour is identity preserved*.

*Identity preserved (IP) is the designation given to such bulk commodities marketed in a manner that isolates and preserves the identity of a shipment, presumably because of unique characteristics that have value otherwise lost through commingling during normal storage, handling and shipping procedures.
Just class , so it seems we as producers cannot use , being implemented I think , soya from certain countries-deforestation yet it can be imported into the country by the big boys and possibly used to make bread , you couldn’t make it up ffs
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
Really pees me off to see a lot of bread now contains soya flour.
Just class , so it seems we as producers cannot use , being implemented I think , soya from certain countries-deforestation yet it can be imported into the country by the big boys and possibly used to make bread , you couldn’t make it up ffs

I think you’d be surprised about what percentage Soya UK have of the home market, for several of the big players Hard IP it’s 100%.
This is one of the major concerns I have about all this new public money for public good situation. It’s no benefit to the planet to be re wilding prime agricultural land over here just to be importing this stuff from halfway across the globe from land that’s been recently reclaimed from the rainforest.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
When we try to source non-GM soya meal we are told that it can’t be segregated from the GM stuff.:scratchhead:

Most of the Soya grown in this country is on a Hard IP contract and as such is worth more than your cattle feed which, as has been said on here, is a by-product after the oil extraction. Regardless Soya prices next year are looking like being £100/ tonne more next year so now might be a good time to be thinking about how you’re going to replace it.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Most of the Soya grown in this country is on a Hard IP contract and as such is worth more than your cattle feed which, as has been said on here, is a by-product after the oil extraction. Regardless Soya prices next year are looking like being £100/ tonne more next year so now might be a good time to be thinking about how you’re going to replace it.

Most of mine was replaced by green stuff years ago, so I won’t be too badly affected by that.

However, when the only realistic alternative here is rape meal, and OSR cropping falling dramatically, it does look scary for anyone feeding livestock intensively.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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