BBC and soya

[Surgery]

Should you worry about the hidden food we consume 1kg a week of?

Soy, or soya, is one of the world’s most important crops. Regarded as a miracle bean that is highly nutritious, it is also now a major cause of environmental damage. Yet many of us don’t realise how much of it we eat.

www.bbc.co.uk

I do like the part that the reporters are saying ‘most’ soya for vegetarian purposes comes from non gm strains and not from South America ! Right!

I suppose thou that at least they have highlighted concerns we all have thou on where it is now being grown.

 

[DrWazzock]

Should you worry about the hidden food we consume 1kg a week of?

Soy, or soya, is one of the world’s most important crops. Regarded as a miracle bean that is highly nutritious, it is also now a major cause of environmental damage. Yet many of us don’t realise how much of it we eat.

www.bbc.co.uk

I do like the part that the reporters are saying ‘most’ soya for vegetarian purposes comes from non gm strains and not from South America ! Right!

I suppose thou that at least they have highlighted concerns we all have thou on where it is now being grown.

I noticed this. Wondered how they could be sure the vegan stuff was segregated. In reality I’d say it probably all goes into and comes out of the same bing.

 

[neilo]

When we try to source non-GM soya meal we are told that it can’t be segregated from the GM stuff.

 

[caveman]

Really pees me off to see a lot of bread now contains soya flour.

 

[caveman]

No mention of percentage.

 

[TheTallGuy]

No mention of percentage.

Ingredients are listed in order of how much is used so would be relatively low.

 

[Bogweevil]

Warburtons say thus:

Soya flour
A natural whitener which improves the colour of white bread. It works well with oxygen to strengthen the dough and provides support and structure during baking. All our soya flour is identity preserved*.

*Identity preserved (IP) is the designation given to such bulk commodities marketed in a manner that isolates and preserves the identity of a shipment, presumably because of unique characteristics that have value otherwise lost through commingling during normal storage, handling and shipping procedures.

 

[Surgery]

Warburtons say thus:

Soya flour
A natural whitener which improves the colour of white bread. It works well with oxygen to strengthen the dough and provides support and structure during baking. All our soya flour is identity preserved*.

*Identity preserved (IP) is the designation given to such bulk commodities marketed in a manner that isolates and preserves the identity of a shipment, presumably because of unique characteristics that have value otherwise lost through commingling during normal storage, handling and shipping procedures.

Just class , so it seems we as producers cannot use , being implemented I think , soya from certain countries-deforestation yet it can be imported into the country by the big boys and possibly used to make bread , you couldn’t make it up ffs

 

[caveman]

Ingredients are listed in order of how much is used so would be relatively low.

Or in the ingredient list it could be as much as 31%?

 

[Paddington]

I am told that Hovis classify soy flour as a legume, so can be incorporated into wheat 100% wholemeal without er changing the title.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

I am told that Hovis classify soy flour as a legume, so can be incorporated into wheat 100% wholemeal without er changing the title.

Well they are legumes aren’t they?

 

[Muck Spreader]

Funny how they fail to mention that Soya primarily grown for it's oil, with the meal being a profitable by product.

 

[M-J-G]

No mention of percentage.

Get the sleeves rolled up and get baking

 

[Simon Chiles]

Really pees me off to see a lot of bread now contains soya flour.

Just class , so it seems we as producers cannot use , being implemented I think , soya from certain countries-deforestation yet it can be imported into the country by the big boys and possibly used to make bread , you couldn’t make it up ffs

I think you’d be surprised about what percentage Soya UK have of the home market, for several of the big players Hard IP it’s 100%.
This is one of the major concerns I have about all this new public money for public good situation. It’s no benefit to the planet to be re wilding prime agricultural land over here just to be importing this stuff from halfway across the globe from land that’s been recently reclaimed from the rainforest.

 

[Simon Chiles]

When we try to source non-GM soya meal we are told that it can’t be segregated from the GM stuff.

Most of the Soya grown in this country is on a Hard IP contract and as such is worth more than your cattle feed which, as has been said on here, is a by-product after the oil extraction. Regardless Soya prices next year are looking like being £100/ tonne more next year so now might be a good time to be thinking about how you’re going to replace it.

 

[neilo]

Most of the Soya grown in this country is on a Hard IP contract and as such is worth more than your cattle feed which, as has been said on here, is a by-product after the oil extraction. Regardless Soya prices next year are looking like being £100/ tonne more next year so now might be a good time to be thinking about how you’re going to replace it.

Most of mine was replaced by green stuff years ago, so I won’t be too badly affected by that.

However, when the only realistic alternative here is rape meal, and OSR cropping falling dramatically, it does look scary for anyone feeding livestock intensively.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Are dairy cows and livestock behind the growth of soya in South America? | Sustainable Food Trust

Soya fed to dairy cows contributes to the destruction of rainforests, however grass-fed dairy offers a more sustainable alternative

sustainablefoodtrust.org

 

[Simon Chiles]

Most of mine was replaced by green stuff years ago, so I won’t be too badly affected by that.

However, when the only realistic alternative here is rape meal, and OSR cropping falling dramatically, it does look scary for anyone feeding livestock intensively.

I reckon home grown lupins are probably the way forward for most.

 

[primmiemoo]

The item in the OP reads like a press release from a pressure group. The BBC is obliged to consider flagging up of, let's say, inaccuracies in their content, so ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

and have the [cough] journalist [cough] made accountable for lack of homework?

 

[caveman]

Get the sleeves rolled up and get baking

Nah.
We use a bread maker.
Handy to have the odd sliced loaf in the freezer though.