Beef finishing nut

[Full of bull(s)]

No, the market is in action. Food for cattle becomes more expensive, so you feed less to cattle and more is available for human consumption.

Cattle use a tiny percentage of the total fed to animals. Poultry feed can’t have substitutions so the cereals will be used

 

[thorpe]

Currently on £278 for a 16% nut, 4 tonnes coming tomorrow, only buying it for the 8 tonnes of micronised barley ordered with it, have to order one to get the other, the barley is still £238 blown in!!

Use the nuts for anything bought to kill or any small bull stirks. Always handy to have a few in stock

barley £238 are you having a laugh?

 

[Full of bull(s)]

barley £238 are you having a laugh?

Nope. £228 Feb, £238 March. Rolled and micronised. A good honest firm who don’t profiteer from regular customers when they have material bought right. They run a very long book on barley as they micronise an awful lot

 

[thorpe]

Nope. £228 Feb, £238 March. Rolled and micronised. A good honest firm who don’t profiteer from regular customers when they have material bought right. They run a very long book on barley as they micronise an awful lot

fair does .

 

[harperfarmer]

Nope. £228 Feb, £238 March. Rolled and micronised. A good honest firm who don’t profiteer from regular customers when they have material bought right. They run a very long book on barley as they micronise an awful lot

Could you explain to a thicko what it means by being micronised and the advantages over straight barley!?

 

[Anymulewilldo]

But would you trust them to honour the contract

Quietly upping the % of sawdust in the nut??

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Your right . Fortune favours the brave

Until the job goes BANG leaving you with sheds full of expensively fed cattle… it’s happened plenty of times before. Will happen again

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Could you explain to a thicko what it means by being micronised and the advantages over straight barley!?

It’s cooked to improve digestability. It comes out when rolled as a clean flake like crimped barley although dry, like flaked maize or peas in a coarse ration. It’s from I’Ansons, their sister company is Masham Micronised Feeds.

 

[goodevans]

Grain is now £315 ton ex farm, protein is well up in price, it will easily be £400+ a ton before long the way things are looking!

But you are correct its not viable at £400 ton and tbh i do not think its viable to feed grain to cattle at £290/315 ton bought in either.

If they are large cattle and are eating 10 kilos a day then by the time you mill it+ protein/ minerals it will be costing £3.50 in grain alone + add everything else and it will be nigh on £5 head a day in costs alone!

A couple of big 1000 head beef units up north are out of barley and apparently are paying £290-315 ton delivered in and are using 70 ton a week so nearly 21k a week in just to buy the barley before you set foot in the yard and mill it/ any other costs for the cattle.

Nope. £228 Feb, £238 March. Rolled and micronised. A good honest firm who don’t profiteer from regular customers when they have material bought right. They run a very long book on barley as they micronise an awful lot

To be fair they can probably only honour their book as the farmers who sold them the barley in the £170/80s are honouring theirs

 

[RAF]

450 B&W on with buitilaar someone on here said a while back goin with Buitlaar is the beginning of the end . Think they maybe right

 

[Anymulewilldo]

450 B&W on with buitilaar someone on here said a while back goin with Buitlaar is the beginning of the end . Think they maybe right

All I’ll say is my mate nearly caught a cold before he told them too get knotted and started doing it all himself again like his dad used too…

 

[aangus]

All I’ll say is my mate nearly caught a cold before he told them too get knotted and started doing it all himself again like his dad used too…

All them schemes are geared to looking after themselves, and to leave a little carrot dangling for the fella doing the majority of the work.

 

[Lazy Eric]

Nope. £228 Feb, £238 March. Rolled and micronised. A good honest firm who don’t profiteer from regular customers when they have material bought right. They run a very long book on barley as they micronise an awful lot

By what you say I deal with the same firm as you. They keep regular customers happy as repeat business is king. Same as the other feed company in same town.

 

[cattleman123]

Until the job goes BANG leaving you with sheds full of expensively fed cattle… it’s happened plenty of times before. Will happen again

I totally agree with this statement but having said that the gamble could pay off this summer/early Autume as with concentrates at record prices i cannot see many feeding cattle on ad lib concentrates / the feeder could be well rewarded, but we will need 4.75 to stand a chance of making it pay...i feed cattle in the summer as above but they are my own beasts not bought in cattle...Gamblers we all are, do i or dont i...?

 

[Anymulewilldo]

I totally agree with this statement but having said that the gamble could pay off this summer/early Autume as with concentrates at record prices i cannot see many feeding cattle on ad lib concentrates / the feeder could be well rewarded, but we will need 4.75 to stand a chance of making it pay...i feed cattle in the summer as above but they are my own beasts not bought in cattle...Gamblers we all are, do i or dont i...?

I’m contemplating what too do with ours at the moment. That little voice in the back of my head is saying that there could be a lot of people thinking the same… “keep them going, other folks won’t be paying this money for the corn.”

 

[gone up the hill]

I’m contemplating what too do with ours at the moment. That little voice in the back of my head is saying that there could be a lot of people thinking the same… “keep them going, other folks won’t be paying this money for the corn.”

Feed them like you would in previous years.

Well bred and fed/ covered cattle will always sell well be that on a good or bad trade but if trade is bad then poor underfed cattle always struggle like hell.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Feed them like you would in previous years.

Well bred and fed/ covered cattle will always sell well be that on a good or bad trade but if trade is bad then poor underfed cattle always struggle like hell.

That’s what I’m thinking on. While others dash about changing their system, it may well pay best too just carry on as normal (although I will be forgoing my annual 6t of Nitrogen!

 

[cattleman123]

Feed them like you would in previous years.

Well bred and fed/ covered cattle will always sell well be that on a good or bad trade but if trade is bad then poor underfed cattle always struggle like hell.

Guth you surprise me really, i thought you have come along and told us we would be wasting our time and to sell them as stores...just shows you cant predict what folk will think,Personally i have big framed CHX cattle last year got a fair bunch to 450/75kgs....well they were not fit until they got their...2k each this Aug is my hope