Best autumn herb for wild oats

[bobk]

In wheat , been using 2 ltr/ha of Picomax which does a fair job for the money , looking for summat better , expecting to do them again in the spring with topic.

 

[yellow belly]

avadex also adds to the bg control
and does some thing to blw but not on the label

 

[bobk]

Not got bg .

 

[robbie]

Since the loss of ipu and ctu I've resigned myself to the fact that theres nothing worth using for wild oat control in the autumn. I just mop them up with topik or if other nasties aswell broadway star.

 

[bobk]

Since the loss of ipu and ctu I've resigned myself to the fact that theres nothing worth using for wild oat control in the autumn. I just mop them up with topik or if other nasties aswell broadway star.

Which begs the question are they worth bothering with in the autumn ,

 

[DRC]

Which begs the question are they worth bothering with in the autumn ,

From my experience this year, no .

 

[robbie]

Which begs the question are they worth bothering with in the autumn ,

No, I never bother just clear them up in the spring.
In the good old days when I was a nipper 3lt of ipu would be it. I hardly ever done anything for oats in the spring.

Edit. It's more BLW I wish I could get cleared up in the autumn and not bother in the spring.

 

[Lincsman]

Atlantis in the spring is still 100% control.

 

[bobk]

Atlantis in the spring is still 100% control.

Isn't it a bit hot ?

 

[Flat 10]

Since the loss of ipu and ctu I've resigned myself to the fact that theres nothing worth using for wild oat control in the autumn. I just mop them up with topik or if other nasties aswell broadway star.

Avadex is surely?

 

[Lincsman]

Isn't it a bit hot ?

Sometimes, but its never been possible to predict when it does damage it, most times it fine, and you do get a lot of other weeds killed.

 

[robbie]

Avadex is surely?

Yes but why would you just for w oats if you've got bg then it's worth it and the oat control is a bonus

 

[Flat 10]

Yes but why would you just for w oats if you've got bg then it's worth it and the oat control is a bonus

Blw too? That plus dff do majority? Perhaps plus a bit of pdm. It is too expensive though I guess.

 

[robbie]

Does the avadex really do much over what an extra lt of PDM and another slug of dff would do for blw's
From memory avadex does carlicks, what does it cost a ha????35 quid

 

[Flat 10]

Does the avadex really do much over what an extra lt of PDM and another slug of dff would do for blw's
From memory avadex does carlicks, what does it cost a ha????35 quid

Not great on charlock. No we were talking about WO. As you said it’s a PITA without CTU or IPU.

 

[Brisel]

In wheat , been using 2 ltr/ha of Picomax which does a fair job for the money , looking for summat better , expecting to do them again in the spring with topic.

What sort of money is Picomax? How thick are the oats? Unless they are really thick I'd leave them until spring and mop them up with Foxtrot/Oskar in March/April. It depends on what else you need to treat. I just use Broadway Star but I'm after brome and a wide range of broad leafed weeds too, and that does them all.

 

[eagleye]

how well does the Broadway Star kill brome and wild oats, I have fields this year where they are still alive, though this was a poor year for weed control generally

 

[robbie]

how well does the Broadway Star kill brome and wild oats, I have fields this year where they are still alive, though this was a poor year for weed control generally

Until this year 100% but this year a few brome and oats have slipped through but I think this could be because they germinated very late and were small enough to hide under a wheat leaf when it was sprayed.

 

[Farma Parma]

Used HATRA here for weed control in winter wheat & not a single W Oat since. nowhere. First time in years ive not used Topic at say T2

 

[bobk]

What sort of money is Picomax? How thick are the oats? Unless they are really thick I'd leave them until spring and mop them up with Foxtrot/Oskar in March/April. It depends on what else you need to treat. I just use Broadway Star but I'm after brome and a wide range of broad leafed weeds too, and that does them all.

About £6 / litre , pendamethalin and picofenlin , they have to be done in the autumn in a couple of fields or they go wild
BS was quite good initially, but I haven't been as impressed subsequently , Topik is better imo