Bourgault or Dutch Openers for Horsch Co drill

spikeislander

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Location
bedfordshire
Any ball park figures on the conversions required to change and rough cost of points , assuming I need two different styles with beans to do.
The fabled blocking of beans worries me a bit so what’s the best to avoid this ? And might try direct I suspect 3 sets needed now ?
 

Doggy

New Member
£75 leg then £50 point for 5 inch Dutch.I bought some second hand 2.5 inch points for my co4 which I have used direct on cereals.I cut the middle bar out so they drill in band rather than double band to stop any blockages, had none yet with undressed wheat or barley.
 

gorgous

Member
Location
Bucks
I was recommended by Horsch service engineer for planting beans with dutch oponers to buy the granular fert pipes which bolt on back of coulter and put the seed delivery tubes on to them with the one inch point fitted.
 

Longneck

Member
I made these tubes up for drilling beans

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But so far have not needed to use them. They have gone through the 1 inch fine so far, but have only drilled tundra with it which are smaller beans.
 

britt

Member
Any ball park figures on the conversions required to change and rough cost of points , assuming I need two different styles with beans to do.
The fabled blocking of beans worries me a bit so what’s the best to avoid this ? And might try direct I suspect 3 sets needed now ?
Spaldings sell a bean tube for the Dutch openers to replace the standard one. I would imagine that they are available else where.
 

Maff123

New Member
If your buying new then you can spec it with Dutch from the dealer.

We are currently running a Vaderstad for our late drilling. High seed rates and close spacing gives the competition. We bought an old CO6 and am trying to decide what coulters to put on it. I’ve nearly convinced myself what works for the Vaderstad doesn’t apply to the CO. So am thinking 75mm Coulter on 250mm centres will give less disturbance and then hopefully the row will close in to smother the bg out. Maybe totally wrong, I should know by spring.
We run 3 1/2” Dutch paired row on a 250mm tine spaced Sprinter and it’s fine, we had an 8mt on 5” but was a bit wide 8mt is 320mm
 

Maff123

New Member
I’m considering a 8 m sprinter and in time will change the points as probably original horsch ones first . On a 8m I believe the row spacing are fairly wide which concerns me ?
With the band sowing I hope it will spread it wide enough but if I change to the other makes and the points are narrower do people feel the row is too wide?
Crop competition being a part of bg control I don’t want to take a step back at all?
Thanks
8 metre runs a wider bottom plate on Duett coulters seed coverage is good but moves a lot of soil and takes some pulling. 5” Dutch on an 8 metre transforms the drill from a seed placement point of view and much reduced draft requirement but is a little wide gaps between rows. It depends on your views on uncovered ground.
 

spikeislander

Member
Location
bedfordshire
Thanks chaps I think my issue is the contradiction between higher seed rates for crop competition and then leaving wide gaps which go against this bg reduction policy.
We are not infested with bg by any means but it has to be top of the list on most things we do .
 

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