Im looking at buying a John Deere 6430 Premium 40k Autopowr with 9000 hours on. Theres no loader on it although I would put one on it. It wouldn't get much hard abuse mainly loader tractor with a fair chunk of road work involved. it would maybe do 500-600 hours a year. Is it likely to just be a headache giving bother? Anyone any experience taking these Autopowrs into high hours. I know the 30series are troubled with head gaskets and injectors, I really don't fancy a Vario going wrong too...
Buying a John Deere 6430 AP with high hours
- Thread starter cheviot1234
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- Herefordshire
Depends, are feeling lucky?,
As you have said head gasket, injectors fairly common, id like one myself but at those hours, probably need keep about £27 k in back pocket for a service exchange gearbox ( fitted), neighbor has one on loader think 11000 hrs, starting have transmission issues.
But saying that ,I know to one(6830)17000 hrs still fine
As you have said head gasket, injectors fairly common, id like one myself but at those hours, probably need keep about £27 k in back pocket for a service exchange gearbox ( fitted), neighbor has one on loader think 11000 hrs, starting have transmission issues.
But saying that ,I know to one(6830)17000 hrs still fine
hmm seems to be a very unlucky year for me so I am not feeling lucky. everything is a gamble at that kind of age and hours. Finding loader tractors at handy money and tidy seems impossible just now!
What budget have you ,
Know of a 22 plate arion 440 , every extra ticked with f l 100 loader its done 400 hrs ,its stands as new ,
25-30k is my maximum
Tractortech
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- Cumbria
Now Then..
If the head gasket is done correctly and the radiator is kept clear of dust etc, then it only needs doing once. We have very little problems with injectors. People seem all to ready to blame them for any irregular running....
As for the Autopowr transmission, anything could happen. Keep something in the ol piggy bank just in case, drive a hard bargain at purchase
If the head gasket is done correctly and the radiator is kept clear of dust etc, then it only needs doing once. We have very little problems with injectors. People seem all to ready to blame them for any irregular running....
As for the Autopowr transmission, anything could happen. Keep something in the ol piggy bank just in case, drive a hard bargain at purchase
Mark C
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- Bedfordshire
First thing to do would be to get a sample of the back end oil analysed for any traces of metal and brake disintegration.
Being 40k helps as less hard on brakes
Like anything at those hours, it depends on how its been looked after and what work it's been doing , our local hedgecutter man had a 6430AP that had been to the moon and before needing a transmisson .
Being 40k helps as less hard on brakes
Like anything at those hours, it depends on how its been looked after and what work it's been doing , our local hedgecutter man had a 6430AP that had been to the moon and before needing a transmisson .
alomy75
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If it was going to have head gasket issues it would probably already have had it done at those hours. I doubt it would cost 27000 to have gearbox done-surely swinnerton machinery wouldn’t be up there? They sound like main dealer prices. I have an immaculate jd loader for one if you’re interested-took it off when we bought our 6430 as we don’t use it.
Gerbert
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- Dutch biblebelt
If it is a commandarm, I want it!
They are like hens teeth and 9k hours is hardly high, I would have no qualms whatsoever. From the 30 series onwards a autopower is no less a gamble as a powerquad/autoquad.
In my area I think about 75 percent of the jd's sold are autopower and while plenty goes wrong on the tractors, the autopower very, very rarely one of them.
I have a 6420 pq which I would love to swop for a 6430 ap but they are insane money and thin on the ground.
They are like hens teeth and 9k hours is hardly high, I would have no qualms whatsoever. From the 30 series onwards a autopower is no less a gamble as a powerquad/autoquad.
In my area I think about 75 percent of the jd's sold are autopower and while plenty goes wrong on the tractors, the autopower very, very rarely one of them.
I have a 6420 pq which I would love to swop for a 6430 ap but they are insane money and thin on the ground.
yes I agree there would be more affordable ways to fix it. I may well be interested in your loader if I get a tractor. would you be able to send me your number in a message please?
yes commandarm with electric joystick and auto steer ready. its well specced and imo would make the best loader tractor set up going. I suppose I'm just wary of the Vario going wrong as it seems costly!
Gerbert
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- Dutch biblebelt
As a loader tractor it has a few big letdowns: the view to the top of loaderheight is horrible, especially if you don't have the rare glassroof. And the creeping forward of the autopower is a pain. I don't think there was a better offering back then though. A case maxxum cvx ticks alot of boxes but won't ever take the hammering of a loader as well as the full frame of the deere.
Do modern tractors ever have trouble with the stresses of a loader? I would have thought all that was designed out now.. Chassis makes it easier to lift the main components out i'd have thought.
Gerbert
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- Dutch biblebelt
If all goes normal I would think so. But try lowering the loader at 50 km per hour and I bet the only one that survives is a JD.
And that isn't even theory, I saw one at the jd dealer, loader was at a 90 degree angle. Not sure on the loaderbrackets but the tractor was just fine apart from cosmetics.
Interesting but i'd say the major plus is the zf front axle. They very rarely give trouble compared to the others..
- Location
- Co antrim
A fendt 312 or 415 wouldnt creep so yes there was a better offering
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Is it not a spicer axle?
Gerbert
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- Dutch biblebelt
Either zf or jd depending on year and suspension.
buying a tractor with high hours is a different proposition to owning one you've put a lot of hours on. It could be set to detonate at any moment, it could just need wear items. How much time can you afford to be without this tractor, and how much money are you prepared to spend on it?
alomy75
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What is this creeping being spoken about? I’ve never used a tractor loader in anger but surely with AP you could just put it into neutral or press the brakes if you didn’t want to move(?) I’ve never had one creep unless I wanted it to(?)