Clocks BST change.

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C.J

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Devon
Does anyone know why the clocks change 9 weeks before shortest day but 16 weeks after? Personally I’d much prefer it if they’d do 9 weeks before and after.
So , today there is as near as dammit 10 hours of sun up - the equivalent day in the spring is 14th February.

However today its 7am to 5pm GMT ( I've converted it a day early ) whereas Feb will be 7.30 til 5.30 GMT or 8.30-6.30 BST giving 11 hours of daylight from 8.00am to 7.00pm so its too early to lose an hour in the morning.

If we waited until the end of Feb there would be 11 hours of sun up 7-6 GMT
which would be 8-7 BST giving 12 hours of daylight from 7.30-7.30.
 

Muddyroads

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Exeter, Devon
So , today there is as near as dammit 10 hours of sun up - the equivalent day in the spring is 14th February.

However today its 7am to 5pm GMT ( I've converted it a day early ) whereas Feb will be 7.30 til 5.30 GMT or 8.30-6.30 BST giving 11 hours of daylight from 8.00am to 7.00pm so its too early to lose an hour in the morning.

If we waited until the end of Feb there would be 11 hours of sun up 7-6 GMT
which would be 8-7 BST giving 12 hours of daylight from 7.30-7.30.
Interesting, thank you. I still think it would make the winter feel shorter if they were changed earlier though.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Ah , but where do you want it left ?

Currently we have 7 months BST and 5 months GMT.

May be we should have a poll
That's the issue isn't it, I believe there is evidence out there to show that changing the hour twice a year is harmful, and it would be better to pick a time and stick to it, but people can't agree where it should be left.
Our clocks went forward a few weeks ago as we are moving into summer, I wish they'd leave it on wintertime. It would mean it was light very early in the morning and dark by 9 at night on the longest day but I think that works better than leaving it the other way.
Location will affect your point of view though.
 

JWL

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Location
Hereford
Last year the other half had stayed up watching horror films into the early hours, I had replaced the mechanism in the clock in the kitchen for one that is linked to the radio signal from Greenwich and it changes itself.
Bad thing for her was that it's one of those big dial things, an impersonation of a station clock, the film she was watching had gone deathly quiet and she was aware of some whirring noises from behind her. When it changes the clock turns the hands backwards through at least 12hours before settling on the actual time. Apart from the screams she almost crapped herself :LOL:
 
Surely that is the wrong way, you will get up an hour earlier so you will lose an hour of morning sun but gsain in the evening, or is this another of Jacinda’s cock ups ? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Edit, I did not notice the posting date :(:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Everything Jacinda did was a complete fúck up, the think now is many who voted for "her" now suffer in silence to the fact that they were responsible.
Going from a majority win by the use of the alleged pandemic with fear and with quite blatant media manipulation and bias to bailing out half way through an election term because of the reality of going to the next election with a massive defeat reeks of cowardice.
The fact that the NZ labour party and the complicit media made absolutely no reference to her during the last election says it all.
Long may the stench of incompetence, corruption and failed promises follow her for the rest of her career and life.
Change Trudeau and Canada for Ardern and NZ and you have exactly the same conclusions as our election 3 years ago.
 
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That's the issue isn't it, I believe there is evidence out there to show that changing the hour twice a year is harmful, and it would be better to pick a time and stick to it, but people can't agree where it should be left.
Our clocks went forward a few weeks ago as we are moving into summer, I wish they'd leave it on wintertime. It would mean it was light very early in the morning and dark by 9 at night on the longest day but I think that works better than leaving it the other way.
Location will affect your point of view though.
Mate, been saying that for decades!!!
Even better return time back to normal like pre 1940's!!!
Make 12.00 midday again!!!
 

Hilly

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That's the issue isn't it, I believe there is evidence out there to show that changing the hour twice a year is harmful, and it would be better to pick a time and stick to it, but people can't agree where it should be left.
Our clocks went forward a few weeks ago as we are moving into summer, I wish they'd leave it on wintertime. It would mean it was light very early in the morning and dark by 9 at night on the longest day but I think that works better than leaving it the other way.
Location will affect your point of view though.
The answer is easy move it 30mins then everyone gets abit of what they want and leave it be ..
 
The answer is easy move it 30mins then everyone gets abit of what they want and leave it be ..
But if that's the case you have to remember the hour they permanently moved it forwards 80 odd years ago, hence as suggested leave it on current normal non summer "time".
Equally for less inconvenience move standard trading hours from 8 till 5 to 7 till 4.
 

Hilly

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But if that's the case you have to remember the hour they permanently moved it forwards 80 odd years ago, hence as suggested leave it on current normal non summer "time".
Equally for less inconvenience move standard trading hours from 8 till 5 to 7 till 4.
Aye . 30 mins put up n shut up , they soon get used to it end of story . 😂
 

goodevans

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That's the issue isn't it, I believe there is evidence out there to show that changing the hour twice a year is harmful, and it would be better to pick a time and stick to it, but people can't agree where it should be left.
Our clocks went forward a few weeks ago as we are moving into summer, I wish they'd leave it on wintertime. It would mean it was light very early in the morning and dark by 9 at night on the longest day but I think that works better than leaving it the other way.
Location will affect your point of view though.
Move it half an hour back tonight and then leave it
 

SwanFarm

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Enniskillen

Why change your clock to twenty to eight in the evening?

So we all agree, move it by five minutes every month 5 minutes x 12=1 hour. Or 10 minutes forward each month for six months then 10 minutes back for next six months. That'll confuse all those who can't change their clocks. It'll also mean that trains will run on time every three months.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Move it half an hour back tonight and then leave it
Puts you out of sync with the world by half an hour though, might not matter to you but it would cause a lot of issues I think.
It really is just a case of pick one of the two and stick to it, people will adapt and maybe change their routines a little but after a year everyone will be used to it.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Why change your clock to twenty to eight in the evening?

So we all agree, move it by five minutes every month 5 minutes x 12=1 hour. Or 10 minutes forward each month for six months then 10 minutes back for next six months. That'll confuse all those who can't change their clocks. It'll also mean that trains will run on time every three months.
now that'll definitely be an improvement 😂
 

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