Do the English just love a Toff?

[arcobob]

Well, obviously if she had done a shift in Lincoln City megastore....

Have they got one..?

 

[Lowland1]

Well, obviously if she had done a shift in Lincoln City megastore....

Then I’d have been even prouder. But today I am able to offer to all forum members an array of Chelsea merchandise at a reasonable price however you may want to tape over the STAFF logo.

 

[Lowland1]

Have they got one..?

More of a market stall apparently you can get an away shirt and 4 stone of potatoes at the same time.

 

[Muck Spreader]

The modern system with selective grammer schools and non grammer schools cannot be beaten
the kid from the non selective school do better than equivalent kids in an area with non selective system

I am not clear what you are getting at here.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Then I’d have been even prouder. But today I am able to offer to all forum members an array of Chelsea merchandise at a reasonable price however you may want to tape over the STAFF logo.

And the Chelsea badge

 

[Lowland1]

And the Chelsea badge

Apparently some people support them. I am not sure whether I would be more upset if she went on the game rather than working for Chelsea. Sunday she’s serving lunch at the Emirates she really has no shame.

 

[Agrivator]

The modern system with selective grammar schools and non grammar schools cannot be beaten
the kid from the non selective school do better than equivalent kids in an area with non selective system

I am not clear what you are getting at here.

There have been two education disasters in the recent past:

1. Open-plan classrooms in primary schools - both the teachers and the pupils got headaches from too much noise.

2. Comprehensive schools with no streaming. It was grossly unfair on both the most academically gifted and the least academically gifted. It held back the brighter pupils, and it was a nightmare for the less bright.

 

[yellow belly]

South Lincolnshire has some of the best grammar schools in the country Boston, Sleaford, Bourne and Grantham to name some not everyone is is their catchment area so they have to make other plans.

the other schools in those towns are also at a level higher than equivalent towns without grammer schools

every town and burough should have a similar system in the 21st century it increase the level of atainmant for every one in the area keeps primery schools on their toes

 

[yellow belly]

I am not clear what you are getting at here.

the selective system in the 1960s had major flaws
it was a compulsory exam
the remaing scools under performed as they were considered second rate

but the continuation of selection and improvements in the other secondary schools now 21 century results in better atainment for every one regardless of ability and
if it was a nation wide system it would wipe out a big percentage of the private schools
the comprehensive system saved most private schools

the big plus for the 11 plus system in the 1970s and 80s was that primery scools had to perform ,there was a measure of their performance that every parent could see which every primery pupil benefited from

 

[Lazy Sod]

At my seconary modern school, my year all the way through was divided into 4 classes, A1 A2 B1 and B2. We were divided by our ability. And some children were moved up or down according to how well they were doing. I was fortunate to be towards the top of A1. Is that what is meant by streaming?

 

[Ncap]

Just a spanner in the works…..
This toff-friendly education system isn’t exactly churning out the best results in the world

 

[Lowland1]

Just a spanner in the works…..
This toff-friendly education system isn’t exactly churning out the best results in the world

I don’t think anyone says it is but generally a public school education gives the child a head start this could be because of the standard of education or because state schooling is poor. A certain South Lincolnshire Grammar school puts three times as many children into Oxford and Cambridge every year compared to a very smart Rutland public school but we can’t all move to Grantham.

 

[yellow belly]

I don’t anyone says it is but generally a public school education gives the child a head start this could be because of the standard of education or because state schooling is poor. A certain South Lincolnshire Grammar school puts three times as many children into Oxford and Cambridge every year compared to a very smart Rutland public school but we can’t all move to Grantham.

cheaper to move to grantham (sleaford boston spalding ect) than pay the school fees
and if you do not make the grammerschool the other schools are very good plus the £250000 or more you could put in the bank (invest)

 

[Lowland1]

cheaper to move to grantham (sleaford boston spalding ect) than pay the school fees
and if you do not make the grammerschool the other schools are very good plus the £250000 or more you could put in the bank (invest)

Cheaper but not necessarily the best option. Education isn’t just exam results, though for £40,000 you need some reasonable ones. My investment though is in my children obviously you can give them the money you’ve saved however I am a great believer in the teach a man to fish philosophy rather than the give a man a fish one.

 

[Mek]

I don’t think anyone says it is but generally a public school education gives the child a head start this could be because of the standard of education or because state schooling is poor. A certain South Lincolnshire Grammar school puts three times as many children into Oxford and Cambridge every year compared to a very smart Rutland public school but we can’t all move to Grantham.

I think it is more British subservience to a toff. Two people of equal ability apply for a job one privately educated and one state school educated and employers favour the privately educated despite the fact that the state educated applicant probably had to work harder to achieve the same results. I probably should add that my wife was a teacher in a private school.

 

[Lowland1]

I think it is more British subservience to a toff. Two people of equal ability apply for a job one privately educated and one state school educated and employers favour the privately educated despite the fact that the state educated applicant probably had to work harder to achieve the same results. I probably should add that my wife was a teacher in a private school.

I don’t know whether it’s subservience or what but I reckon you’re probably right what I will say is privately educated people in my opinion have a lot more confidence ( arrogance in cases). Again I believe a lot is to do with the parents as to how this comes out but it was one of the reasons we opted for private education.

 

[Ncap]

Other countries rank much higher on education results. And state funded too
Why does it only have to be private education with a few charity scraps ?

 

[Lowland1]

Other countries rank much higher on education results. And state funded too
Why does it only have to be private education with a few charity scraps ?

Education Rankings By Country 2021

I am not sure that’s true

 

[beefandsleep]

I don’t know whether it’s subservience or what but I reckon you’re probably right what I will say is privately educated people in my opinion have a lot more confidence ( arrogance in cases). Again I believe a lot is to do with the parents as to how this comes out but it was one of the reasons we opted for private education.

Confidence, arrogance, lifetime expectations, self belief, entitlement, call it what you will. Private schools encourage a culture of success and competition both academic and sporting. Some state schools do this also but too few and there is far too much inverted snobbery in many state schools where children are dragged down if they dare to have ideas above their station. There are no limits put on the ambitions of private school pupils, no one will laugh or call you a nerd or posh boy if you say you want to be a surgeon or the prime minister.
The point about the parents is obviously true and private schools are full of positive role models in well paid professions so even if your dad is a peasant like myself you are unlikely to limit your ambitions to following in his footsteps, and if you do you’ll make sure you’re the best damn peasant there ever was.

 

[Happy at it]

Was reading the other day that the Eton education of prince harry, rewarded him with a B in art and a D in geography at A level (having dropped out of history). Guess it cant all be brain surgeons etc in privately paid education.