Drilling winter barley into grass ley with Sumo DTS

[ISCO]

We are a mainly livestock mixed farm growing 30 acre of winter barley for stock feed. Establishment has always been plough power harrow based.
Son who is keen on regen ways, wants to drill this year's barley with a Sumo DTS. I am happy to do this in theory, but wondered what the more experienced direct/strip drillers think of this along with any advice.
Soil is medium loam with open sward temporary grass. This will be sprayed off and we have lime to apply.

In short does it stand a fair chance of success, which will do me.

 

[Northern Luke]

I use a DTS, I'd wager it'll be a poorer crop than your plough/combi but it'll be cheaper to establish.
with wide row spacing it will let light into the bottom and encourage competition. My advice would be to cross drill it in, go at half rate and drill it twice at a different angle. Make sure you have a good kill of the grass as control options on barley are limited.
Realise tramlines cannot be added but you can always pop them in on sprayer.

In short have a go.

 

[ISCO]

I use a DTS, I'd wager it'll be a poorer crop than your plough/combi but it'll be cheaper to establish.
with wide row spacing it will let light into the bottom and encourage competition. My advice would be to cross drill it in, go at half rate and drill it twice at a different angle. Make sure you have a good kill of the grass as control options on barley are limited.
Realise tramlines cannot be added but you can always pop them in on sprayer.

In short have a go.

Thanks. Never thought of cross drilling.
Son is keen so likely will give it a go.

 

[Matt77]

I've done wheat with a Mzuri a few times, so same tyre of drill, I've had very mixed results, one field was into 3 year old grass, so not that old, sheep had taken it down to dirt, it grew, but the yield was rubbish compared to wheat with the same drill into non grass, the turf makes a flap, which hinges, either back over the seed making just a slot left, or the other way, leaving the seed uncovered! My experience anyway....

 

[Sam Partridge]

We are a mainly livestock mixed farm growing 30 acre of winter barley for stock feed. Establishment has always been plough power harrow based.
Son who is keen on regen ways, wants to drill this year's barley with a Sumo DTS. I am happy to do this in theory, but wondered what the more experienced direct/strip drillers think of this along with any advice.
Soil is medium loam with open sward temporary grass. This will be sprayed off and we have lime to apply.

In short does it stand a fair chance of success, which will do me.

is it a contractor with the drill?

 

[ISCO]

is it a contractor with the drill?

Yes, we would use a local contractor.

 

[Hampton]

We are a mainly livestock mixed farm growing 30 acre of winter barley for stock feed. Establishment has always been plough power harrow based.
Son who is keen on regen ways, wants to drill this year's barley with a Sumo DTS. I am happy to do this in theory, but wondered what the more experienced direct/strip drillers think of this along with any advice.
Soil is medium loam with open sward temporary grass. This will be sprayed off and we have lime to apply.

In short does it stand a fair chance of success, which will do me.

When you say livestock, do you mean sheep?
If it’s sheep and the land has any heaviness about it then they will put it down like concrete

 

[ISCO]

When you say livestock, do you mean sheep?
If it’s sheep and the land has any heaviness about it then they will put it down like concrete

Sheep and cattle, not heavy land.
From comments so far perhaps we would be better ploughing this year and then trying the DTS next year.

Don't want to dampen son's enthusiasm though.

 

[Hampton]

Sheep and cattle, not heavy land.
From comments so far perhaps we would be better ploughing this year and then trying the DTS next year.

Don't want to dampen son's enthusiasm though.

I would plough it, just because it will clean everything up.