Glyphosate heading to £150 in the Spring

[Barleymow]

I only use a little bit round the yard in a knapsack, so not fussed really. *






* For farm assurance purposes, I do not own a knapsack.

It's a watering can surely

 

[serf]

I seem to remember that I paid £56 for 5 litres when it first came out.

Yes it was up there when Monsanto had the monopoly on it till license ended or what ever the agreement was with it if I remember correctly.

Edit;
the patent ended in 2000 in US and bit earlier in Europe so was a open market after then so price dropped .

 

[colhonk]

But the Chinese have us all by the short and curlies as they produce 3/4 of the main ingrediant, and the only other supplier is America and their factory is shut at the min.

 

[tullah]

But the Chinese have us all by the short and curlies as they produce 3/4 of the main ingrediant, and the only other supplier is America and their factory is shut at the min.

So little wheat from harvest 2023 then.

 

[serf]

But the Chinese have us all by the short and curlies

And not just with roundup but most things we buy day to day !!!

 

[Jerry]

At this point rate I’ll be raiding the local garden centres. Might be cheaper to buy it by the litre…

 

[Farmer Roy]

Meh, we already pay that sort of money for it in 1000 l shuttles . . .

welcome to the rest of the world

 

[Badshot]

Meh, we already pay that sort of money for it in 1000 l shuttles . . .

welcome to the rest of the world

Is that why you've developed resistance to glyphosate in ryegrass etc?
Pressure to reduce rates and not getting a full kill?

 

[Secret Agronomist]

Will we be going back to using low rates and heating it up with loads of adjuvants then? I can't quite remember what we used to do before the advent of generics but was it oil we used maybe?

 

[Sid]

Biggest joke is certain members moaning about how the chemical firms are "ripoing them off" then moan they struggle with supply and then post how happy they are to have received a lovely hamper from a supplier.

Cake and eat it spring to mind!

 

[marshbarn]

Will we be going back to using low rates and heating it up with loads of adjuvants then? I can't quite remember what we used to do before the advent of generics but was it oil we used maybe?

Frigate

 

[Barleymow]

Frigate

1l liquid urea

 

[colhonk]

Hey Ho, Bring on the good old days. At each end of the field lift spring tines up and leave a grit heap of couch grass roots, then go back with a gripe and chuck it into the hedgeback, yep really good old days.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Is that why you've developed resistance to glyphosate in ryegrass etc?
Pressure to reduce rates and not getting a full kill?

we’ve had ryegrass resistance for 30 years

Glypho was $20 / litre back then & some Argos were pushing 300 ml / ha in 30 l / ha water, I think that’s when it all stems from

but ryegrass has developed resistance to just about everything. In laboratory conditions, they were able to breed resistance to all registered chemicals in less than 30 generations . . .

 

[DeeGee]

Frigate

Exactly!
Why bother trying to farm with ever rising costs!?

 

[Farmer Roy]

Is that why you've developed resistance to glyphosate in ryegrass etc?
Pressure to reduce rates and not getting a full kill?

PS - rates used now are always label rates & in theory we can’t apply more than label rates, but a number of species, not just ryegrass, are becoming resistant to glypho.

but, we’ve been using it since the late80’s, so that’s probably 40 odd years of useage, so yeah, plenty of time to select out the resistant genes . . .

 

[GmB]

Per 20l - not scaremongering, not sure there is much if any to order right now. This is the price being muted for new volume arriving in spring. I think if you can wait we we see prices fall again.

Wynnstay over £200 / 20l, but none in stock.

 

[Badshot]

we’ve had ryegrass resistance for 30 years

Glypho was $20 / litre back then & some Argos were pushing 300 ml / ha in 30 l / ha water, I think that’s when it all stems from

but ryegrass has developed resistance to just about everything. In laboratory conditions, they were able to breed resistance to all registered chemicals in less than 30 generations . . .

300ml.
I thought it was madness when Hutchinson's were pushing repeated 1l/ha doses about 10 years ago.

 

[Farmer Roy]

300ml.
I thought it was madness when Hutchinson's were pushing repeated 1l/ha doses about 10 years ago.

as I said, it was 30 or more years ago & it was $20 / litre or more . . .

 

[Farmer Roy]

Back then, it would have been 300ml of 360 as well . . .

now of course, it’s all 450 or higher