KV cl geospread grass seed settings

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
In my experience. All these settings apps are great ( we do our own one. ) however you MUST tray test and air moisture content, seed moisture content , wind, density, etc etc… will all affect it ON the day. No substitute for actuall tray testing your own product
 

Limcrazy

Member
Set up my sower using the app to sow grass seed this spring. Was putting it on far too heavy on first time round field. Had to reduce setting a lot and sowed by what seed looked like on the ground. 6m spacing will be fine if calm or light breeze. Had sowed plenty with last vicon twin disc and always happy with the result.
I'd try and divide field into measured blocks and try to sow allocated amount on 1 first.
 

JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
In my experience. All these settings apps are great ( we do our own one. ) however you MUST tray test and air moisture content, seed moisture content , wind, density, etc etc… will all affect it ON the day. No substitute for actuall tray testing your own product
While I appreciate what you are saying you haven't got a clue in my experience and are talking like a true salesman and NOT a farmer! 🙄 State the bleeding obvious but can't do it yourself!

Tray testing grass seed!?
Air moisture= rain?
Seed moisture content, fecking dry I should hope being grass seed!
Spreader was tray tested for 3 different fertiliser products last Feb set up after using the app to start with and then adjusted accordingly.
In my experience talking to other farmers is more helpful
 

JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
Set up my sower using the app to sow grass seed this spring. Was putting it on far too heavy on first time round field. Had to reduce setting a lot and sowed by what seed looked like on the ground. 6m spacing will be fine if calm or light breeze. Had sowed plenty with last vicon twin disc and always happy with the result.
I'd try and divide field into measured blocks and try to sow allocated amount on 1 first.
I will be able to find out if its putting the right rate on by the weigher and the area sown through gps.
Was really after sowing width but 6m should be fine and apply wice half rate I think to get good coverage.
After all fert at £800t need a good even crop to throw it at!
 

Andy26

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
Northants
Could do the field at 8m widths, twice, so every 4m, the first time over will give you a field level calibration.

You'll get a much better overlap and it will definitely spread 4m.

Weigh cells would have to be super super accurate to rely on for grass seed.
 

Kevtherev

Member
Location
Welshpool Powys
Not used a KV for grass seed but any I’ve done with an amazone or vicon is done twice over driving about 1.5m from last bout.
Grass seed won’t go much more than 3m
Especially if it’s a bit windy!!
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
While I appreciate what you are saying you haven't got a clue in my experience and are talking like a true salesman and NOT a farmer! 🙄 State the bleeding obvious but can't do it yourself!

Tray testing grass seed!?
Air moisture= rain?
Seed moisture content, fecking dry I should hope being grass seed!
Spreader was tray tested for 3 different fertiliser products last Feb set up after using the app to start with and then adjusted accordingly.
In my experience talking to other farmers is more helpful
In farmer speak if its a sticky or humid day fertiliser and seed flow rate slow right down compared to a bone dry day. Also some seed is sticky anyway, particularly if it has had any sort of treatment, again slowing the flow rate. That's why the book settings are a starting point.
 

David1968

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
SW Scotland
Not used a KV for grass seed but any I’ve done with an amazone or vicon is done twice over driving about 1.5m from last bout.
Grass seed won’t go much more than 3m
Especially if it’s a bit windy!!
1.5m seems a bit excessive. Used to do a lot with a vicon and 3m was fine. You had to pick your days though.

Used to sow at 6m and then go back in between the bouts. It was easier to turn at the ends and gave you a chance to tweak the rate if necessary.
 

Dman2

Member
Location
Durham, UK
couldn`t get my Vicon Geospread to open far enough for grass seed to run without putting far to much on.
Ended up going over with drill
I was on fine setting as well
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
While I appreciate what you are saying you haven't got a clue in my experience and are talking like a true salesman and NOT a farmer! 🙄 State the bleeding obvious but can't do it yourself!

Tray testing grass seed!?
Air moisture= rain?
Seed moisture content, fecking dry I should hope being grass seed!
Spreader was tray tested for 3 different fertiliser products last Feb set up after using the app to start with and then adjusted accordingly.
In my experience talking to other farmers is more helpful
yep, you carry on. What do i know.......
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
but surely modern weigh cells take this into account
as flow varies etc
Yes, but the application rate for grass seed is generally so low that the spreader cannot be accurate enough. Certainly my Vicon EDW couldn't, wonderful with fertiliser, even powders but grass seed was always a wee bit out, even with two of the three apertures blanked off.
 

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