Lucerne varieties?

[Colliedog]

Would anyone know pros and cons between different Lucerne varieties? I have been successfully growing lucerne for a forage for a few years and am going to continue doing so for the foreseeable. The last variety I grew was Asmara which did me well. I have been offered Salsa or Marshall this time and it got me wondering how they differed?

 

[Great In Grass]

Or https://www.barenbrug.biz/forage/products/artemis.htm

No.1 in la belle France and many other European markets I sell quite a bit of it.

 

[Colliedog]

Or https://www.barenbrug.biz/forage/products/artemis.htm

No.1 in la belle France and many other European markets I sell quite a bit of it.

Thank you for that, sounds very interesting I actually ordered Salsa this morning as the sowing window is closing and I need to get it in but I thought it would post the question so as I was more knowledgeable for next year. I will ask you for a quote next time!

 

[Barleycorn]

Would have thought you had plenty of time to get it in, end of September cut off in our part of the world?

 

[Great In Grass]

Apart from Artemis we also offer Salsa and Marshallo! Also Timbale, Galaxie and a mix of the two.

 

[Colliedog]

Would have thought you had plenty of time to get it in, end of September cut off in our part of the world?

Good to know. I had always been told the beginning of September.

 

[Colliedog]

Apart from Artemis we also offer Salsa and Marshallo! Also Timbale, Galaxie and a mix of the two.

How do they all compare? Looking for protein first then yield and not too thick stemmed. On chalky ground.

 

[Boysground]

I have some Artemis here it’s still in the bags, friend of mine has quite a bit in the ground and he said it’s the best he’s grown, which was a good enough recommendation. Lucerne is a new crop for me so it’s going to be interesting.

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[Phil Le Maistre]

I have some Artemis here it’s still in the bags, friend of mine has quite a bit in the ground and he said it’s the best he’s grown, which was a good enough recommendation. Lucerne is a new crop for me so it’s going to be interesting.

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Good to know. I had always been told the beginning of September.

First time growing Lucerne this year what’s the latest you can go with drilling? I was hoping to put it in following maize which will be mid September time ?

 

[Great In Grass]

It's too late past mid August.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Do not delay if you intend to sow this autumn, it needs to be up and away and have root mass before the winter really sets in. On the wrong land/soil/aspect you could be chancing your arm.

 

[Boysground]

My Guru has been growing Lucerne for a number of years, currently about 100 acres not far from me and on the same chalk soils says that early September will be fine for me. Looking at the weather forcast I’ve got more chance of planting Lucerne than combining this week.

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[Colliedog]

First time growing Lucerne this year what’s the latest you can go with drilling? I was hoping to put it in following maize which will be mid September time ?

The handbooks will tell you mid august to 1st sept but you will have to use your local Jersey climate knowledge to think if you extend it. I got mine in yesterday two weeks later than last time. The two tips I will offer is it responds to p&k like grass does to nitrogen and use a really good additive as it has low sugars and likes some help for fermentation.

 

[Phil Le Maistre]

The handbooks will tell you mid august to 1st sept but you will have to use your local Jersey climate knowledge to think if you extend it. I got mine in yesterday two weeks later than last time. The two tips I will offer is it responds to p&k like grass does to nitrogen and use a really good additive as it has low sugars and likes some help for fermentation.

Thanks for that wondering if I’m a bit too late for this year by the time I get seed over here.How long has yours been in the ground for? Do you clamp it or bale ?

 

[Phil Le Maistre]

My Guru has been growing Lucerne for a number of years, currently about 100 acres not far from me and on the same chalk soils says that early September will be fine for me. Looking at the weather forcast I’ve got more chance of planting Lucerne than combining this week.

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Is this all grown for dairy or made into hay for horses? Looks like I’m pushing it trying to get it in after maize

 

[Bury the Trash]

Would have thought you had plenty of time to get it in, end of September cut off in our part of the world?

how would it have got on last year ? expensive seed as well.

that's not basis stuff just common sense

 

[Martyn]

Are people baling or silaging it as silage? will it grow well after a red clover ley does ph have to be exact for it?

 

[Great In Grass]

Friend of mine wrote a growers guide for Nickerson/Limagrain.

 

[Boysground]

Is this all grown for dairy or made into hay for horses? Looks like I’m pushing it trying to get it in after maize

The guru grows silage for cows. Think he is going Lucerne and maize only next year. I am going to bale it for cows, it’s too far to haul grass or maize, but we need a viable break and this is worth a try.

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[Bury the Trash]

'Guru' sounds a bit like some sort of affliction

I've got a Guru