MF 135 50k

[How much]

did some of the industrial tractors not have front brake option ?

 

[Blue.]

did some of the industrial tractors not have front brake option ?

On David browns they did,never seen them on masseys.

my idustrial 135 does about 16mph flat out,one from the late 70s so presumably a 565 rear axle.

 

[How much]

On David browns they did,never seen them on masseys.

my industrial 135 does about 16mph flat out,one from the late 70s so presumably a 565 rear axle.

its maybe that I am thinking of .

 

[devonshirekiwi]

French built ones had it. There was one for sale at a local collective some years ago.

I have an 8 speed 135 built in Coventry around 73/74. Sold new in New Zealand

 

[Cowabunga]

I have an 8 speed 135 built in Coventry around 73/74. Sold new in New Zealand

All the 8 speed Coventry ones sold in the UK were the 148, which had all of 2 extra horses and a spacer in the middle to lengthen the wheelbase by 6 inches. The 135 was only sold as a six speed or twelve speed Multi Power. There was nothing stopping them selling 8 speed 135’s of course, except their marketing department. There were shuttle options also.

The 188 had an extra spacer in front of the engine to add yet another 2” to make the 188 all of 8” longer wheelbase than the 185.

 

[Fendtbro]

If you could drive at 23-25 mph at Just over half throttle that would be very nice.. don’t have to sit at 30mph! I Believe my mf 65 industrial is higher geared than the red standard one?

 

[Cowabunga]

If you could drive at 23-25 mph at Just over half throttle that would be very nice.. don’t have to sit at 30mph! I Believe my mf 65 industrial is higher geared than the red standard one?

Depending on the age and spec and tyres fitted to Coventry tractors, the standard gearboxes had top speeds of 15 [25kph], 18.5mph [30kph] or with MultiPower up to 22mph [35kph], all approximate.
I remember the old MF65 having a 15mph top speed and being replaced by a MF165 with the 18.5mph range box. The 165 felt underpowered compared to the 65 in top as a consequence of its lofty gearing.

 

[essexpete]

On David browns they did,never seen them on masseys.

my idustrial 135 does about 16mph flat out,one from the late 70s so presumably a 565 rear axle.

Massey seemed to have more than one type of industrial 3 cylinder tractors. Some (20?) appeared to be little more than a 135 with slightly different spec. Others had the larger inboard disc rear axles and outboard drum brakes as well (203/5 and 40).

 

[Red Fred]

Brown trouser tractor driving:

 

[Blue.]

Massey seemed to have more than one type of industrial 3 cylinder tractors. Some (20?) appeared to be little more than a 135 with slightly different spec. Others had the larger inboard disc rear axles and outboard drum brakes as well (203/5 and 40).

Yes,mines a 40,some are just a yellow 135.

 

[multi power]

I find it weird that there is seemingly an off the shelf kit to make a 135 50k full stop tbh. Saying that it may be that somebody has worked out that by mixing and matching a few parts from a different gearbox you can make a 50k one (which may explain needing the rarest gearbox.

There are millions of those gearboxes worldwide, so it's hardly surprising there are so many parts available

 

[multi power]

Massey seemed to have more than one type of industrial 3 cylinder tractors. Some (20?) appeared to be little more than a 135 with slightly different spec. Others had the larger inboard disc rear axles and outboard drum brakes as well (203/5 and 40).

20 is effectively a 135 with a speedometer
And probably dual brakes

 

[essexpete]

20 is effectively a 135 with a speedometer
And probably dual brakes

How did they do the dual brakes?

 

[fendtfiasco]

Have heard of a very fast 135 in Northern Ireland, seen footage years ago of it passing a tipper lorry . Think it took a few attempts to get it right, bit off figuring out ratios the other option was fit an engine out of an Isuzu Trooper as it revs higher. Biggest problem would be stopping with dry drum brakes , have a Same orchard tractor that does possibly 50 k or near it not everybody you would let drive it but it has power steering and 4 wheel braking oil immersed discs at each wheel plus air seat.

 

[Red Fred]

The old Nuffield 4/65s were pretty alarmingly nippy in their day. You could be belting up the road in 5th and realise you were still in low and had a gear still in hand.
I overtook a mod on his Lambretta once. The worst part of them was the erratic steering and the dry brakes that were either on or off with nothing in between if they worked at all. Happy days!

 

[agrimax]

How did they do the dual brakes?

AFAIK, Almost double width brake drums with a standard set of shoes for the foot brakes and a thinner set mounted between the back plate and the standard shoes, for a cable operated handbrake.
Did see a picture somewhere with a similar setup, only with hydraulic slave cylinders operating the foot brake shoes. Maybe was on a 20C,D or E...

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

If you want it to go faster, just fit a 165 gearbox into a 135,
Will easily do over 50k, and fit 32" back wheels close on 60k.
Stopping it will be the problem

 

[H200GT]

There is a fast 35 locally, led to believe that it had the diff of an industrial model fitted, possibly a MF40. Its standard engine.

 

[Sharpy]

This may be incorrect, but I remember hearing about a seriously fast 135 which had a 165 gearbox coupled to a 135 diff and half axles. As the 165 was set up for the planetary reduction on the half axles and the 135 didn't have this it was rapid.

 

[multi power]

How did they do the dual brakes?

Exactly as agrimax said, I will get a photo, I've a 20D on the go at the moment