Mixing anything with spring Grassweed herbs in wheat

[Flat 10]

I know we were always told not to mix CTL and PGRs with Atlantis etc and I have always followed this (don't need a PGR after anyway!) with the exception of trace elements but there's a windy week in prospect and late drilled ww has some YR so dare I add a splash of teb with the horus? Thanks

 

[robbie]

Can't see why not.
I need to go through some of mine with Broadway star and the rest with SU and mcpa and although I'm not finding any rust at the moment I've got teb in the shed and will look the day before and decide weather to chuck it in or not, there'll be MN and probably some epso top in there tank as well.

 

[cricketandcrops]

If you add Tebuconazole you might as well add Reglon, it was removed from tank mix list about 10 years ago due to increased scorch. Personally I would avoid it altogether this week with frosts due.

 

[robbie]

If you add Tebuconazole you might as well add Reglon, it was removed from tank mix list about 10 years ago due to increased scorch. Personally I would avoid it altogether this week with frosts due.

To Horus or all grass weed herbs or all herbicides???

I won't be spraying anything for a week or more with the weather the way it is.

 

[Flat 10]

If you add Tebuconazole you might as well add Reglon, it was removed from tank mix list about 10 years ago due to increased scorch. Personally I would avoid it altogether this week with frosts due.

Hence me asking. thanks

 

[cricketandcrops]

Horus, Hatra and Atlantis for sure, don’t know about others

 

[robbie]

Doesn't it depend on what teb it is???? Toledo is SC and folicur is emulsion oil in water ect.
I seem to remember being told something about it on one of the courses,

 

[cricketandcrops]

SC will be kinder than EC however none are on Bayer list.

 

[robbie]

Had a quick Google while drinking my tea and found this from Feb 2011 by FW.
How it reads, they removed folicur from the list because of reduced efficiency of Atlantis rather than for crop safety reasons
Folicur label shows mixes with ally ect and mecopro,starane, ect so just the grass weed herbs which raise a question.

 

[Andy26]

If you add Tebuconazole you might as well add Reglon, it was removed from tank mix list about 10 years ago due to increased scorch. Personally I would avoid it altogether this week with frosts due.

Agree with this, especially some of the cheaper generic Tebs can be very hot. Atlantis at this timing is harsh on the crop without help from tank mix partners.

Prioritise the herbicide, you still get good kickback on Yellow rust from fungicides so wouldn't worry to much.

 

[Andy26]

I know we were always told not to mix CTL and PGRs with Atlantis etc and I have always followed this (don't need a PGR after anyway!) with the exception of trace elements but there's a windy week in prospect and late drilled ww has some YR so dare I add a splash of teb with the horus? Thanks

To add, I don't think a PGR is necessary on a crop with April applied Atlantis, it usually knocks the crop and holds it back a couple of weeks.

 

[Flat 10]

To add, I don't think a PGR is necessary on a crop with April applied Atlantis, it usually knocks the crop and holds it back a couple of weeks.

I did say that in the post you quoted..........
Used some Horus a fortnight ago and had some of the best results i've had with it for years.

 

[Hindsight]

Cyproconazole and epoxiconazole we Ok to partner with Mesosulfuron products. And Broadway Star. I would not mix with a tebuconazole product. Although Rotam I believe support their Toledo formulation with Broadway Star - though do check first. And i would leave a few days gap beween teb and any grass herbicide. But tha is just me. I was caught in 2008 with Folicur + Atlantis - depsite being on BAYER approved list - the year before the mix was removed. Made me very wary.

 

[FarmerBruce]

To add, I don't think a PGR is necessary on a crop with April applied Atlantis, it usually knocks the crop and holds it back a couple of weeks.

It definitely can be!!!

 

[deleted user 837354]

Was gonna say I have mixed Atlantis et al with CTL and PGR a million times without any undue effect, but on angrier crops than the bulk of this forum would have in front of them I suspect. I wouldn't put fungicide in with Atlantis/Broadway if you are chasing a serious grass weed problem though, nor would I put manganese etc in either. In that situation I would do the herbicide with its adjuvant alone.

 

[deleted user 837354]

To Horus or all grass weed herbs or all herbicides???

I won't be spraying anything for a week or more with the weather the way it is.

If the weed issues are that bad then I might do a separate pass for ally +/- etc but unlikely. The main issue with the grass weed herbicides was that putting other things in the tank tended to safen them on the weeds.

 

[Brisel]

To add, I don't think a PGR is necessary on a crop with April applied Atlantis, it usually knocks the crop and holds it back a couple of weeks.

This.

 

[Brisel]

Agree with this, especially some of the cheaper generic Tebs can be very hot. Atlantis at this timing is harsh on the crop without help from tank mix partners.

Prioritise the herbicide, you still get good kickback on Yellow rust from fungicides so wouldn't worry to much.

This too!