Mole ploughing in a water main!

[br jones]

I have the same job to do here, and was told by Welsh Water, the pipe has to be 750mm down, and they want to inspect every 100m to make sure it is. Also, with Welsh Water, they are insisting on barrier pipe (at just under £5/m) instead of normal 25mm blue pipe. I am waiting for a contractor to come and do the job (he specialises in moling in Wind Farm electrical cables). I think a normal tractor won't pull a mole that deep. I asked another local contractor to do the job with a tractor and he started talking about having to pull the tractor/mole plough with a digger to get it that deep!

connect to a drinking trough just inside gate closest to connection,get approved ,and then do what you want

 

[puppet]

interesting idea, i have metered water at the steading where the house will be built which i could in theory tap into but when i approached Scottish water about a connection they send a pic of a seperate connection to the water main 800m away and the other side of a road

If you have mains metered water then surely connect to that. Does Scottish Water realise that you own the steading and the development? Maybe think the developer needs to connect elsewhere.
Our house is connected to the same supply as the steading, all beyond a meter and check valve. All passed recent inspections. I cannot see the problem so long as it is beyond the meter

 

[daveydiesel1]

I have the same job to do here, and was told by Welsh Water, the pipe has to be 750mm down, and they want to inspect every 100m to make sure it is. Also, with Welsh Water, they are insisting on barrier pipe (at just under £5/m) instead of normal 25mm blue pipe. I am waiting for a contractor to come and do the job (he specialises in moling in Wind Farm electrical cables). I think a normal tractor won't pull a mole that deep. I asked another local contractor to do the job with a tractor and he started talking about having to pull the tractor/mole plough with a digger to get it that deep!

Be better with a dozer as it has far more grip

 

[Ffermer Bach]

If only. Did you know you aren’t allowed to connect anything more on to a metered supply now?!

In our situation, they will not adopt our pipes (despite trying to force us to build to their daft spec) but want meters at every dwelling as well as a non billing sub meter at the start, all paid for by us.

We are having to sell the bungalow (divorce), there is a shed, as well as the bungalow. Welsh Water said we can't tap into the pipe to the house and tee off to the shed. I was going to just put a trough in (by the road), then do what I wanted after. However, as it's going to be sold I decided I needed to follow all the regs. It felt to me, their inspector was just quoting "computer says no", but as I said, I want to follow ther regs (however stupid they are).

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Be better with a dozer as it has far more grip

If I can get him to come, that's what the moling man uses.

 

[Mur Huwcun]

We are having to sell the bungalow (divorce), there is a shed, as well as the bungalow. Welsh Water said we can't tap into the pipe to the house and tee off to the shed. I was going to just put a trough in (by the road), then do what I wanted after. However, as it's going to be sold I decided I needed to follow all the regs. It felt to me, their inspector was just quoting "computer says no", but as I said, I want to follow ther regs (however stupid they are).

We’ve got a bungalow and a shed built on our farm but the main farm is on a lifetime tenancy! There’s a development going on locally that needs a 63mm pipe through our and the estate land. We’re in process of trying to get a 32mm in the same trench to seperate bungalow and owned land from rest of the farm. The bungalow was just teed off a field trough in 1982 to get water for the brickies and has stayed like that ever since!! It seems like an impossible mission communicating with dŵr Cymru on a practical level!!!

 

[Ffermer Bach]

We’ve got a bungalow and a shed built on our farm but the main farm is on a lifetime tenancy! There’s a development going on locally that needs a 63mm pipe through our and the estate land. We’re in process of trying to get a 32mm in the same trench to seperate bungalow and owned land from rest of the farm. The bungalow was just teed off a field trough in 1982 to get water for the brickies and has stayed like that ever since!! It seems like an impossible mission communicating with dŵr Cymru on a practical level!!!

I wish I had done it years ago, before they got stricter regs, but hey ho. They even had to inspect the bungalow, to make sure the plumbing was suitable for a mains supply (1970's build), and I still have to sort out a chlorination certificate too.

 

[Mur Huwcun]

I wish I had done it years ago, before they got stricter regs, but hey ho. They even had to inspect the bungalow, to make sure the plumbing was suitable for a mains supply (1970's build), and I still have to sort out a chlorination certificate too.

Well this development and the fact that new houses need 32mm connections has changes our plan. We do have metered troughs in a few fields that intill about 5years ago were just on a fixed charge, initial plan was to connect one of these troughs to a trough in field by house which would back feed the house. It’s only a 20mm supply though and going forward the house and few fields will be sold eventually so having a new 32mm connection should help hopefully.

 

[Lakesdigger]

I wish I had done it years ago, before they got stricter regs, but hey ho. They even had to inspect the bungalow, to make sure the plumbing was suitable for a mains supply (1970's build), and I still have to sort out a chlorination certificate too.

To be fair the regs haven't changed that much just that they have decided to start following them

 

[Cow_calver]

Well this development and the fact that new houses need 32mm connections has changes our plan. We do have metered troughs in a few fields that intill about 5years ago were just on a fixed charge, initial plan was to connect one of these troughs to a trough in field by house which would back feed the house. It’s only a 20mm supply though and going forward the house and few fields will be sold eventually so having a new 32mm connection should help hopefully.

so all new house supplies need 32mm pipe? ill need to check that because the pipes in the steading look slightly smaller

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Normally 25 mm

 

[Cow_calver]

If you have mains metered water then surely connect to that. Does Scottish Water realise that you own the steading and the development? Maybe think the developer needs to connect elsewhere.
Our house is connected to the same supply as the steading, all beyond a meter and check valve. All passed recent inspections. I cannot see the problem so long as it is beyond the meter

so if its after the meter i can do as i like? the only downfall is ill then have to pay for my house water when it should be free?

 

[Cow_calver]

Normally 25 mm

yes looks it, that could be a problem i cant just tie into a water trough thats next the plot then ill need to go right back to the metre on other side of steading

 

[Cow_calver]

connect to a drinking trough just inside gate closest to connection,get approved ,and then do what you want

would you get your connection approved if it was connected to a 25mm water trough pipe?

 

[wanton dwarf]

If only. Did you know you aren’t allowed to connect anything more on to a metered supply now?!

In our situation, they will not adopt our pipes (despite trying to force us to build to their daft spec) but want meters at every dwelling as well as a non billing sub meter at the start, all paid for by us.

Yeah they're after Standing Charge for the same infrastructure

 

[Mur Huwcun]

so all new house supplies need 32mm pipe? ill need to check that because the pipes in the steading look slightly smaller

Wales anyhow for sprinkler systems

 

[Lakesdigger]

Wales anyhow for sprinkler systems

I bet still using meters with 25mm connections

 

[puppet]

so if its after the meter i can do as i like? the only downfall is ill then have to pay for my house water when it should be free?

Not aware any house gets free water. If no meter then you pay a fee along with your council tax. Exempt if you have meter and a septic tank.

 

[serf]

Can you persuade them that you need a 32mm connection for a trough 3m from their pipe? Once meter is in you can do what you want with pipe after!!!!

Good thinking

 

[vantage]

Not aware any house gets free water. If no meter then you pay a fee along with your council tax. Exempt if you have meter and a septic tank.

A farm locally does! They owned the land where a reservoir was built and got a non metered supply. Apparently a neighbour found out and tried to connect in!