New claas arion thoughts

[Matt L]

Same lift capacity though. Only real difference is the engine management allowing extra 20hp on 660.

 

[WOL]

660 only comes in C-matic CVT box.

 

[McD]

Rescued a neighbors 620 yesterday. Circlip came off the planitery gears in the back end and the pins came out and went through the casting. 3years old 1500 hours. Dealer told him he's on his own. Bit worrying happening at such low hours.

 

[principal skinner]

Rescued a neighbors 620 yesterday. Circlip came off the planitery gears in the back end and the pins came out and went through the casting. 3years old 1500 hours. Dealer told him he's on his own. Bit worrying happening at such low hours.

That’s why my new one on order is going on 5 years maxicare

 

[McD]

That’s why my new one on order is going on 5 years maxicare

Have you worked out what it will cost you over the 5 years? Dealer services must cost approx £1 an engine hour over DIY plus the cost of the actual warranty. I can see the attraction but some times wonder how big the bill needs to be to break even

 

[Cows 'n grass]

My 620 is just over 4 years old and has done a completely faultless 5000hrs. I very briefly enquired about swapping in in and was told that exactly the same model I have would be £20k more than i paid in 2014.

 

[Wellytrack]

Rescued a neighbors 620 yesterday. Circlip came off the planitery gears in the back end and the pins came out and went through the casting. 3years old 1500 hours. Dealer told him he's on his own. Bit worrying happening at such low hours.

That’s not good enough. Nowhere near.

 

[holywell farmer]

Rescued a neighbors 620 yesterday. Circlip came off the planitery gears in the back end and the pins came out and went through the casting. 3years old 1500 hours. Dealer told him he's on his own. Bit worrying happening at such low hours.

That's poor form by the dealer

 

[McD]

That's poor form by the dealer

Must admit I was surprised. When we ran claas, they did a lot to help in various problems but that was a different dealer. I'd expect a generous discount on the parts at the very least but so far no. It needs a new casting and everything internal apart from the half shaft. Quite an expense at 1500 hours. I won't say anymore until we see what happens in the next few days but the initial dealer response was pretty much "go forth and multiply"

 

[Finn farmer]

Must admit I was surprised. When we ran claas, they did a lot to help in various problems but that was a different dealer. I'd expect a generous discount on the parts at the very least but so far no. It needs a new casting and everything internal apart from the half shaft. Quite an expense at 1500 hours. I won't say anymore until we see what happens in the next few days but the initial dealer response was pretty much "go forth and multiply"

Imo you'r neighbor should contact Claas directly, usually a manufacturer is much more keen in fixing things up than a dealer (or they can kick some speed on the dealer).

 

[james ds]

The biggest contractor around these parts with 30 tractors bought a class two years ago as it was a lot cheaper than JD or MF , it has given plenty of small bits of trouble , enough for him to never buy another class .

 

[stevedave]

The biggest contractor around these parts with 30 tractors bought a class two years ago as it was a lot cheaper than JD or MF , it has given plenty of small bits of trouble , enough for him to never buy another class .

Let me guess is he going Valtra.

 

[stevedave]

About 5k I expect!

It was less then a grand when we priced them up. 660 is Cmatic only.

 

[james ds]

Let me guess is he going Valtra.

He's waiting on a demo but currently has mostly JD and a few Massey .

 

[holywell farmer]

660 only comes in C-matic CVT box.

Out of interest is it claas own design the gear box ?

 

[James]

Out of interest is it claas own design the gear box ?

Apparently it is.

 

[Yale]

Apparently it is.

I thought they were Gima,built alongside the Massey Dynas being very similar?

 

[Finn farmer]

I thought they were Gima,built alongside the Massey Dynas being very similar?

Powershifts are the same as Massey whereas the Cvt is a modified Zf (or atleast was).

 

[john432]

Powershifts are the same as Massey whereas the Cvt is a modified Zf (or atleast was).

That is true for the larger Axion range, but the Arion C matic vario is fitted with Claas 's own developed and built cvt unit, bolted onto a Gima, "massey" " claas " back axle.

 

[Sumpy82]

The eq 200 cvt Transmission fitted into Arion 500/600 is claas’s Own Transmission built in the Paderborn factory