Operator feedback on certain tractors

[Dian Landman]

Hey guys. I need some feedback from guys running some of the tractors I'm going to mention. We are sitting with a difficult choice to make. Currently running a Landini 7-200 but its starting to give trouble and only sitting at 1200h. We decided to rather take the loss now and replace the tractor. Its our main tractor and does about 1400h a year. Does about a 1000h of ripping/subsoiling with a 9 tine Rovic leers ripper. Picture to follow. Its a very heavy ripper since its a frame that actually takes 15 tines but we modified it. The rest it does odd jobs like pulling the Mchale baler, mowing, feeding etc. Thats the reason I need to stay on the mentioned tractors size. A bigger 8R size tractor would be a waste to run on the smaller implements.

Looking at the following tractors to replace it with so any real world feedback would be greatly appreciated. Working on ZAR20 to 1 pound to give purchase prices.

John Deere 6195M with command arm, greenstar with 4240 screen, command quad transmission, front suspension, cab suspension, full weights, 710 rear and 600 front Trelleborg tyres. Purchase price 113750 pounds. Trade price on Landini 48000 pounds. Only available in 3 months

Massey Ferguson 7724 with dyna 6 transmission, front suspension. No cab suspension and no gps system. 710 rear and 600 front tyres. Demo model with 115h on the clock. Full warranty still in place. Purchase price 97500 pounds. Trade price on Landini 50000 pounds. Available now.

Fendt 724 profi plus. So cab suspension, front suspension, front linkage and all the bells and whistles. Fendt not very big in SA yet. Second hand tractor with a 1000 odd hours on. Also on 710 rear and 600 front tyres. Purchase price 135000 pounds. Trade price for Landini 50000 pounds. Available now.

Case 225 cvt. Cab suspension, cvt transmission and the rest pretty basic on this unit. Purchase price is 110000 pounds. Still waiting on a trade price for my Landini.
650 rear and 600 front tyres. Available now.

I currently have a 6175M which I have used on the ripper. It handles the weight better than the Landini does. I think the front suspension plays a big part in that. It also has better traction than the Landini but Landini does pull a bit better since it has a bit more power. We have always experienced that the John Deeres do pull above their counterparts. We tried the Landini since it was 30000 pounds cheaper than the John Deere a year ago. Unfortunately the decision has come to haunt us now. I just dont want to make the same mistake we another brand if we dont go with John Deere.

Any feedback on people running the above tractors would be greatly appreciated. Even more if people made the move from one to the other. Especially from A brand to John Deere or Massey since they are my lead to options.

Thanks from a South African dairy farmer

 

[wuddy]

Case puma 225 would be my choice from that list think it’s the best vario on the market! Had issues with Masseys and wouldn’t go near one, I find Fendt’s to complicated by maybe ok once you get used to them and rule out the JD as I like vario’s to much to go back to a manual gearbox! Sure you could get a gps system on the Case for a reasonable price if you applied a little pressure and made it a deal breaker!

 

[Orionn4444]

+1 for the Case! Went from a landini 7.175 to a case last year! I find the case the most well rounded out the lot, a nice balance between cost and what you get

 

[RAF]

John deere

 

[daveydiesel1]

Sounds to me your gettin more for your money with the massey. We have a 6499 which the 7724 is a direct replacement for and its a brill tractor. The sisu engine is as good as youl get in todays tractors. If your not goin for the massey take a look at the new valtra if youv a local dealer. Theyr good tractor

 

[daveydiesel1]

Hey guys. I need some feedback from guys running some of the tractors I'm going to mention. We are sitting with a difficult choice to make. Currently running a Landini 7-200 but its starting to give trouble and only sitting at 1200h. We decided to rather take the loss now and replace the tractor. Its our main tractor and does about 1400h a year. Does about a 1000h of ripping/subsoiling with a 9 tine Rovic leers ripper. Picture to follow. Its a very heavy ripper since its a frame that actually takes 15 tines but we modified it. The rest it does odd jobs like pulling the Mchale baler, mowing, feeding etc. Thats the reason I need to stay on the mentioned tractors size. A bigger 8R size tractor would be a waste to run on the smaller implements.

Looking at the following tractors to replace it with so any real world feedback would be greatly appreciated. Working on ZAR20 to 1 pound to give purchase prices.

John Deere 6195M with command arm, greenstar with 4240 screen, command quad transmission, front suspension, cab suspension, full weights, 710 rear and 600 front Trelleborg tyres. Purchase price 113750 pounds. Trade price on Landini 48000 pounds. Only available in 3 months

Massey Ferguson 7724 with dyna 6 transmission, front suspension. No cab suspension and no gps system. 710 rear and 600 front tyres. Demo model with 115h on the clock. Full warranty still in place. Purchase price 97500 pounds. Trade price on Landini 50000 pounds. Available now.

Fendt 724 profi plus. So cab suspension, front suspension, front linkage and all the bells and whistles. Fendt not very big in SA yet. Second hand tractor with a 1000 odd hours on. Also on 710 rear and 600 front tyres. Purchase price 135000 pounds. Trade price for Landini 50000 pounds. Available now.

Case 225 cvt. Cab suspension, cvt transmission and the rest pretty basic on this unit. Purchase price is 110000 pounds. Still waiting on a trade price for my Landini.
650 rear and 600 front tyres. Available now.

I currently have a 6175M which I have used on the ripper. It handles the weight better than the Landini does. I think the front suspension plays a big part in that. It also has better traction than the Landini but Landini does pull a bit better since it has a bit more power. We have always experienced that the John Deeres do pull above their counterparts. We tried the Landini since it was 30000 pounds cheaper than the John Deere a year ago. Unfortunately the decision has come to haunt us now. I just dont want to make the same mistake we another brand if we dont go with John Deere.

Any feedback on people running the above tractors would be greatly appreciated. Even more if people made the move from one to the other. Especially from A brand to John Deere or Massey since they are my lead to options.

Thanks from a South African dairy farmer
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Also what problems are you havin with you landini?

 

[Dian Landman]

Also what problems are you havin with you landini?

It has gone through 2 fuel pumps. First one was rusted inside and second one a spring broke inside. Also had a gearbox problem. Also need something a bit bigger and stronger to pull that ripper.

 

[daveydiesel1]

It has gone through 2 fuel pumps. First one was rusted inside and second one a spring broke inside. Also had a gearbox problem. Also need something a bit bigger and stronger to pull that ripper.

Is that not a fpt engine and zf tranny? Woulda thought it should be a good combination. Well the sisu engine in the massey and valtra would be a great engine. That would be my vote anyway

 

[Andrew]

If it was me:

John Deere: Discount it because it's got Command Quad. I'd rather have Auto quad or Auto Power.

MF: Discount it because we've had 2, one only stayed for a week, was a very bad experience. The other is not a nice place to spend the day.

Fendt: Would probably be my second choice, as looks like it will be more expensive than the case, and you say they're not that popular so getting spares may be more troublesome.

Case: Would be my first choice.

 

[Dian Landman]

Went ahead and ordered the John Deere with command quad and the command arm premium cab setup. Also included greenstar with the new gen 4 screen. TLS and cab suspension. Looking really forward to this tractor. Hope the covid situation doesn't delay the arrival by too much but safety first atm. I do think the new 6M look great.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Good choice. Id prefer powerquad myself but am just a bit oldskul. Health to enjoy it ?