Optimum hours to change

[mf7480]

Worth checking out other brands for prices. From my experience earlier in the year, MF have become very expensive in comparison to “expensive” makes.

We’ve gone away from MF already,

sounds like its been good value

with what you have outlined above i would be inclined to change it if capital circumstances allow

pretty much what we did with our last fendt (5k hours swap) . Im planning on changing the next at 10,000hrs however (currently at 7500 ). will let you know which was the right decision in 2 years time !

It seems it hasn't been bad. Another bonus is £10k off the tax bill next December. Which basically makes the 'cost to change' £40k. Although any repairs on this tractor would obviously also be tax deductable.

 

[Farma Parma]

We’ve gone away from MF already,


It seems it hasn't been bad. Another bonus is £10k off the tax bill next December. Which basically makes the 'cost to change' £40k. Although any repairs on this tractor would obviously also be tax deductable.

Been there n done all of the above.
The rules are tho only do it if your certain you have had a better than ave year, otherwise pay the tax & owe nowt IE on finance if you see what i mean.
Remember sitting with accountant one year & whinging about some Tax too pay it might have been £5-6k i cant mind exactly now.
But i asked what would i have had to spend to get rid of that Bill, instantly he says £43k
we looked at each other n both agreed just pay the Tax.

Thankfully Her Maj Pleasure has had very little off me ever since for all sorts of reasons but there is ways n means of working the system to our advantage right enuff

 

[farmerm]

owner driver or student casual is surely one of the biggest factors in machine longevity..

 

[FarmyStu]

owner driver or student casual is surely one of the biggest factors in machine longevity..

I'd say it's THE biggest factor. But if you're a big farming company, shifting your tractors on every 3 years, then you might well find that it's subsequent buyers that take the hit for machine abuse whilst you owned it. That makes paying peanuts to monkeys a good business decision?

 

[mf7480]

owner driver or student casual is surely one of the biggest factors in machine longevity..

What about an employed long term conscientious operator?

 

[farmerm]

What about an employed long term conscientious operator?

Probably better than the owner driver who has to pay for the service consumables with their own money

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Dont forget the AIA is only a timing tool. You would otherwise have a writing down allowance each year. Total tax would be the same over the life of a machine unless you never sell it.

Hope I've got that right???

 

[Chae1]

What about an employed long term conscientious operator?

That's another issue. If they value a new tractor. I would change it to keep them happy. There's not many about.

 

[farmerdan7618]

Dont forget the AIA is only a timing tool. You would otherwise have a writing down allowance each year. Total tax would be the same over the life of a machine unless you never sell it.

Hope I've got that right???

Yep, spot on.

But, if you need something then getting the timing right can be very helpful for cashflow.

And if you don't need it, a bit of tax to pay is often a better outcome in the long run.

 

[Two Tone]

Owner driver tractors will last a hell of a lot longer than otherwise. Especially if you know your way around a tool box and a grease gun.
I have two main line tractors (one being a Fastrac with a demount sprayer) and 2 working classics.
I could change them all for one (probably a Fastrac), but just don’t want to and it’d still cost more than than I’d get for the 4 I’ve got. I’d quite happily not change any of them ever again.
The classics have both done well in excess of 10k hours and are handy for little and hay making jobs. The main lines do all the hard work and are 6 and 10 years old.
All are reliable and my pleasure to use and to enjoy having.

 

[SilliamWhale]

It would have been cheaper to grease the bearings twice yearly. For some peculiar reason, GIMA have never fitted the required grease nipples, preferring to fit blanking plugs with an obscure reference in the manual as to fitting and removing [an absurd and unnecessary proposition] a nipple to periodically lubricate the outer bearings. A large proportion of users never do, and they then fail at typically 7000 to 10,000 hours, as above.

I can't find this in the manual. Is it model specific? I've got an arion 620

 

[Cowabunga]

I can't find this in the manual. Is it model specific? I've got an arion 620

The newer models with round axles are an unknown quantity to me but all the square profile GIMA axles from the smallest to the largest have the plug that should be removed and replaced by a grease nipple and greased with four or five shots twice a year or so. If no road work or heavy tillage is done, once a year. Can't remember what the book interval is but some grease is far better than no grease from one year to the next.
I grease my 5445 before silage time every Spring. It is only on the rake, mixer wagon and topper mostly and only does about 500 hours annually .

 

[stevedave]

We've got 3 Claas tractors and the book says every 500 hrs it will be in the greasing section of the book. Our 660 and 550 have the grease nipples there now I cant remember about the 530 as it is older.

 

[Farma Parma]

The newer models with round axles are an unknown quantity to me but all the square profile GIMA axles from the smallest to the largest have the plug that should be removed and replaced by a grease nipple and greased with four or five shots twice a year or so. If no road work or heavy tillage is done, once a year. Can't remember what the book interval is but some grease is far better than no grease from one year to the next.
I grease my 5445 before silage time every Spring. It is only on the rake, mixer wagon and topper mostly and only does about 500 hours annually .

Am sure without looking in my 6480 book it used to be every 1000hrs on the older masseys & likely 1200hrs on the 64
None on Fendt Transaxle masseys now why is that ??

 

[stevedave]

Am sure without looking in my 6480 book it used to be every 1000hrs on the older masseys & likely 1200hrs on the 64
None on Fendt Transaxle masseys now why is that ??

The Dyna VT's are Fendt from the bell housing back

 

[Farma Parma]

The Dyna VT's are Fendt from the bell housing back

I know that, but do they run on ZERO grease in there bearings like?

 

[stevedave]

From what I remember on our old 74 series the trumpet housing were full of gear oil.

 

[Farma Parma]

From what I remember on our old 74 series the trumpet housing were full of gear oil.

Yes thats correct but surely the rear trans oil in a D6 box is lying along them rear trumpets you would have thought? oh bugger maybes its not

 

[stevedave]

On my 660 you can hear the trumpet bearings star to squeak if you leave it 500 hrs so now I give them a couple of pumps every 100 hrs. A local contractor used to have big problems with bearings collapsing in the trumpet housings on the old 6100 series. They wouldn't get to the service intervals without going and then it was a new trumpet housing or diff housing.

 

[Fendt516profi]

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