Our country has gone fudged

[Devil's advocate]

It turned about 4 years ago, or rather it took Covid to make it obvious how society had changed.

Often as a kid I used to be amazed how societies on the other side of the Iron Curtain behaved, with so many people happy to inform on their friends, neighbours and even family. Covid has shown me that such people exist in every society, and will do it for nothing more than the moral superiority it affords them. In order to run a dictatorship you don't really need to have heavy handed surveillance on everyone, just make it easy for people to inform on others in return for nothing more than a few brownie points with the authorities. The snitches will do all your hard work for you, and there will always be plenty of them.

I was watching John Craven on Newsround back 1978ish. Mt Craven was appealing for children to inform the police if healthy Dutch elms were been felled.

Dad said at the time "just like Hitler's Germany".

Those children watching John Craven then are now early retired civil servents & still watch John Craven.

 

[topground]

While presented as a comedy originally the series should be watched by everyone with the right to vote and regarded as an educational documentary.

 

[George Mitchell]

While presented as a comedy originally the series should be watched by everyone with the right to vote and regarded as an educational documentary.

Its right over the mark, politicians are thick morons looking out for themselves, the unelected civil servants are the ones running the shitshow

 

[Hilly]

A lot more people in the country though - gotta be 20+ million more than when I was young

Imagine the resources to cater for 20 million folk for a year !

 

[kiwi pom]

notice a lot of blame going on the general public here, had a friend who use to work a "help line" that was used for reporting "problems", he always said that the biggest user of it was other Farmers reporting their neighbours

Everyone regards anyone outside of their industry or job as "the public" On here the public are anyone who doesn't farm (it's not clear whether non farming landowners are public or not) To everyone else farmers are just lumped in with the public as they are all outsiders.
If the country is fudged it's fair to assume that the farmers are playing their part in it as is everyone else.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Imagine the resources to cater for 20 million folk for a year !

Imagine the money involved & who has got that money

20,000,000 x 100,000 = 2,000,000,000,000 = 2 Trillion in profit on the houses alone, with associated mortgages say 4+ Trillion for the banks & building societies

Those are low estimates BTW

All the commercial properties required to service those people & services

Can you see how much money a few people are making at the expense of everyone else

 

[bluebell]

So wheres the "perfect" life world country? If and im one of them, fed up with our lot running this country, why are so many thousands/millions desparate to get here? Go live in russia, franch even see the rules regs, tax etc? Look at macron? Head of state? Get rid of our "monarchy/royal family" and replace it with what the blairs?

 

[Johnnyboxer]

So wheres the "perfect" life world country? If and im one of them, fed up with our lot running this country, why are so many thousands/millions desparate to get here? Go live in russia, franch even see the rules regs, tax etc? Look at macron? Head of state? Get rid of our "monarchy/royal family" and replace it with what the blairs?

Lichtenstein
Good skiing too
Monaco in the summer

 

[nelly55]

I wish the idiots running this country got a grip on the cheque book,culled all the dead wood.Just watched Cameron walk into a meeting with a bus load of followers trailing behind all on pay and expenses I guess.That’s just one minister add them all up it’s out of control.Every goverment or public service industry is top heavy with pen pushers .

 

[Tomo23]

IMO, the reason for most problems we face boils down to one fact, we are over populated. But you never hear anybody say that, it's always climate change or lack of money or governance.

Flooding, to many houses, to many people.
NHS knackered, to many people straining the system.
Potholes and general road state, to much traffic, to many people.
Crime, not enough police to go around, to many people.
River pollution, to much sewerage, system can't cope, to many people.

What do you do to fix these problems, you can't, it's a one way street and it's to late to turn around. I sometimes sit and genuinely worry for the future for my child. Haven't said that, have I added to the problem by introducing him to this world.

 

[Hilly]

So wheres the "perfect" life world country? If and im one of them, fed up with our lot running this country, why are so many thousands/millions desparate to get here? Go live in russia, franch even see the rules regs, tax etc? Look at macron? Head of state? Get rid of our "monarchy/royal family" and replace it with what the blairs?

Uk best place in the world , just frustrating to see things handled badly and knowing it could all be so much better !

 

[killie_cowboy]

Import third world nonsense, expect its behaviour to follow

I would say that's a separate problem, the black and brown ones won't snitch because they're often at something dodgy themselves. Besides their countries are shitholes why would they be bothered if ours turns the same.
It's the white up-their-own-hoop do little do gooders that are guilty of this. Used to say snitches get stitches and I think we would all like to give some of them an absolute pasting. Fairly recently the police showed up as I had shot some pigeons and put them on a midden on our hill and some fker walked by and phoned the rozzers.
Absolute soft, grassing, idle b4stards.

 

[its yourself]

This place is the funniest.
Especially this thread.
Outstanding stuff

 

[kiwi pom]

Imagine the money involved & who has got that money

20,000,000 x 100,000 = 2,000,000,000,000 = 2 Trillion in profit on the houses alone, with associated mortgages say 4+ Trillion for the banks & building societies

Those are low estimates BTW

All the commercial properties required to service those people & services

Can you see how much money a few people are making at the expense of everyone else

A lot of the people who own the rental houses and let the commercial properties post on here.

 

[tractorsandcows]

The only carbon worthy of a mention is the exotic stuff on high end cars.

Some of my most hated words are
Carbon-neutral
Climate
Net zero
Sustainable
Sustainability

I actually cringe every time I hear these terms.

But after cringing you will have a blast in the BM to cheer you up

 

[tractorsandcows]

So wheres the "perfect" life world country? If and im one of them, fed up with our lot running this country, why are so many thousands/millions desparate to get here? Go live in russia, franch even see the rules regs, tax etc? Look at macron? Head of state? Get rid of our "monarchy/royal family" and replace it with what the blairs?

Boris and Carrrie
or Jeremy and wife No 4

 

[bluebell]

Kiwi pom you are right to a point, you can divide the UKs poulation in many ways, ie the haves and have nots, one large way, thats only come about in the last 40 odd years, are home owners and those who rent? I can remember back in the 1970s-80s, and finding a local paper from that era, brings it home when a "average house" was around £25-30,000 and people didnt keep on talking about house prices, back then a "average" person on an average salery could just about afford to buy and did, those that bought back then and in the years up to the end of the 1980s, have seen their "average" house increase in value 10 or more times, far more than inflation, so have a valuble asset that often gets passed down to the next generation? The other lot, the renters have none of this?

 

[JP1]

IMO, the reason for most problems we face boils down to one fact, we are over populated. But you never hear anybody say that, it's always climate change or lack of money or governance.

Flooding, to many houses, to many people.
NHS knackered, to many people straining the system.
Potholes and general road state, to much traffic, to many people.
Crime, not enough police to go around, to many people.
River pollution, to much sewerage, system can't cope, to many people.

What do you do to fix these problems, you can't, it's a one way street and it's to late to turn around. I sometimes sit and genuinely worry for the future for my child. Haven't said that, have I added to the problem by introducing him to this world.

And yet bizarrely there's ever more pressure on the National Insurance pot now and in the future and to reduce the influence of the State Pension (deferred date for eligibility etc)

 

[its yourself]

And yet bizarrely there's ever more pressure on the National Insurance pot now and in the future and to reduce the influence of the State Pension (deferred date for eligibility etc)

National Insurance pot?
Say what?

 

[le bon paysan]

Hah
its only the plebs that have to pay more.
The cayman islands have never been busier

Don't forget Honduras has no extradition treaty with the UK. Michelle Mone and Doug Barrow man are residing there now.