Ovivac p plus or Heptavac p plus?

Discussion in 'Livestock & Forage' started by farmer lee, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. farmer lee

    farmer lee New Member

    Hi, I understand you would vaccinate ewes and replacement lambs with Heptavac p plus as it covers more and provides passive immunity to lambs but why would you Ovivac store lambs instead of using Heptavac?
     
  2. JohnGalway

    JohnGalway Member

    Location:
    Connemara, Ireland
    Don't know the answer, always used hep p + on everything, never seen ovivac for sale locally or online in Ireland.
     
  3. farmer lee

    farmer lee New Member

    Ovivac is cheaper than Heptavac and good for store lambs but I can't work out why :)
     
  4. Bye heck how much!!!!

    Location:
    north yorkshire
    I think there is something slightly different between the two, ovivac-p has something extra for lambs I think. I use ovivac on the lambs and hept on the ewes but basically its better to use either than nothing. ovivac might be a touch cheaper too.
     
  5. Bye heck how much!!!!

    Location:
    north yorkshire
    Ha just looked it up and no real reason why use different ones :banghead:
     
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  6. farmer lee

    farmer lee New Member

    I didn't think there is a reason to use two different ones but it states 'Heptavac p plus is the recommended breeding stock vaccine since it provides optimal aid in the control of predominant clostridial diseases in adult sheep' ... still doesn't make a lot of sense to me
     
  7. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    Correct. Heptavac P+ covers everything that Ovivac P+ does, along with lamb dysentery. That will only effect new born lambs, and not even those in the Cotswolds (& other areas?), so no advantage whatsoever in doing slaughter lambs with the more expensive vaccine. Cost about 10p/dose extra last time I worked it out. Over a lot of lambs, it might be worth consideration, over a small number, almost irrelevant I suppose.

    Btw, a lot of breeding sheep on the Cotswolds are only ever given Ovivac P+. I only started using Heptavac when I moved. :)
     
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  8. farmer lee

    farmer lee New Member

    Thank you so much :) it all makes sense now.
    Is lamb dysentery common in the south or anywhere does anyone know?
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2013
  9. bj_cardiff

    bj_cardiff New Member

    Location:
    Carmarthenshire
    I've often wondered if I could dose all the lambs with Ovivac, then if I decided to keep any for replacements switching them onto Heptavac when I did the pre-lambing boosters? I've not met anyone that does tho, so I tend to use Heptavac on the lambs..
     
  10. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    The lamb dysentery cover might not be full, otherwise, it wouldn't create a problem. I believe lamb dysentery is a massive killer if you get hit, but thankfully rare these days because most sheep are covered by Heptavac or Covexin.
     
  11. farmer lee

    farmer lee New Member

    Yes you can do it that way but your have to give them the 2 doses of Heptavac 4 to 6 weeks apart for the replacement lambs to be fully protected. You may as well carry on using Heptavac for everything if your not sure what lambs your going to keep
     
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  12. Farm store near us pointed out you can't get Ovivac in 125 dose packs so in some circumstances it is cheaper to buy the Hep as it may suit better the numbers that need jabbing.;)
     

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