Question concerning disposing of rat

[bertot]

Hi,

I have a hypothetical question.

If a rat is caught in a live cage trap, what is the law concerning how to dispose of it? Is it illegal to, for example, place the cage containing the rat in a barrel of water to drown it?

Thanks

 

[melted welly]

Hi,

I have a hypothetical question.

If a rat is caught in a live cage trap, what is the law concerning how to dispose of it? Is it illegal to, for example, place the cage containing the rat in a barrel of water to drown it?

Thanks

No.

Humane dispatch.

Or take it somewhere you don’t like…..and release it.

 

[bertot]

No.

Humane dispatch.

Or take it somewhere you don’t like…..and release it.

You mean no don't do it?

How could a rat that is trapped alive be dispatched humanely? Without a rifle. Is there a way to release it into a sack and then kill it by force?

 

[reb1952]

Why not ask your local authority (environmental health), they're bound to know the answers (NOT). More importantly, how do you dispose of the carcase ? Alternatively I'm sure the Red Tractor inspector will know (some hope).

 

[melted welly]

Drowning would get you into bothering.

Best way is not to use humane traps in the first place, rat traps or poison, then you’re dealing with something that can just be thrown in a bin.

when a bird charity was cleansing an island on west coast of Scotland of rats, they used humane traps then gave the volunteers air pistols to dispatch the rats, often requiring repeated attempts to then kill them.

I’m no fan of rats, but surely a quick kill is preferable to humane trapping and whatever comes next.

 

[gatepost]

It's surprising how often there's a terrier turn up at turn out, only one mind not a pack.

 

[Bogweevil]

Never easy.

Old Uncle Bill used to grab them quick and kill them with a bite, mad old sod.

I shoot them in the head with an air rifle, I won't say they do not suffer but it is the best I can do.

Squirrels are worse.

 

[bertot]

Drowning would get you into bothering.

Best way is not to use humane traps in the first place, rat traps or poison, then you’re dealing with something that can just be thrown in a bin.

when a bird charity was cleansing an island on west coast of Scotland of rats, they used humane traps then gave the volunteers air pistols to dispatch the rats, often requiring repeated attempts to then kill them.

I’m no fan of rats, but surely a quick kill is preferable to humane trapping and whatever comes next.

I have 5 Fenn traps all in tunnels and have killed 5 rats in them but there's one fat one that won't go in the spring trap but repeatedly goes in the live cage trap. I released him but sprayed blue dye marker on his tail first so I know it is him who keeps coming back and gets trapped in this cage. It's tempting to dunk the whole cage in a barrel of water because I don't have any air rifles but if it is illegal I won't then. I'm surrounded by many other farms so I can't really release him anywhere within a 10 mile radius so I guess then I'll just have to release him here again and not trap him anymore. It's a pity. unless there's an alternative? Somehow release him into a box with a fenn trap already inside?

The reason I asked if it was illegal was that anyone I ever ask would never tell me. They either said I shouldn't do it for moral reasons, or they recommended spring traps, which I already use. Believe me, if it was legal to drown them, I would do it. That's all I was interested in, not the moral question. Some people who were even against harming or killing rats full stop would chastise me for even asking the question

 

[grainboy]

Christ sake just dispatch it,
Who’s going to know !!

 

[Alias]

I was told by a man who makes traps (trapman.co.uk) that official guidance is to release them into a sack then dispatch them with a cosh. Easier said than done. Shooting in a trap is not recommended because you might wound it.

 

[Chae1]

Any pikeys set up camp nearby?

 

[Highland Mule]

I have 5 Fenn traps all in tunnels and have killed 5 rats in them but there's one fat one that won't go in the spring trap but repeatedly goes in the live cage trap. I released him but sprayed blue dye marker on his tail first so I know it is him who keeps coming back and gets trapped in this cage. It's tempting to dunk the whole cage in a barrel of water because I don't have any air rifles but if it is illegal I won't then. I'm surrounded by many other farms so I can't really release him anywhere within a 10 mile radius so I guess then I'll just have to release him here again and not trap him anymore. It's a pity. unless there's an alternative? Somehow release him into a box with a fenn trap already inside?

The reason I asked if it was illegal was that anyone I ever ask would never tell me. They either said I shouldn't do it for moral reasons, or they recommended spring traps, which I already use. Believe me, if it was legal to drown them, I would do it. That's all I was interested in, not the moral question. Some people who were even against harming or killing rats full stop would chastise me for even asking the question

Feed him some poison if you're bothered, or put the trap in a big bag and connect it to the exhaust of an old classic car without a catalytic converter.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Hi,

I have a hypothetical question.

If a rat is caught in a live cage trap, what is the law concerning how to dispose of it? Is it illegal to, for example, place the cage containing the rat in a barrel of water to drown it?

Thanks

I think the answer to the hypothetical question, is use a trap that kills said rat.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Feed him some poison if you're bothered, or put the trap in a big bag and connect it to the exhaust of an old classic car without a catalytic converter.

I was told a story years ago, about a technician in the college, who wanted to euthanize their pet cat. Vet would have charged, so he made a sealed box to put the cat in, which was connected to the car exhaust pipe, I think he even incorporated a glove, so he could continue to stroke the cat as it died!!

 

[melted welly]

I have 5 Fenn traps all in tunnels and have killed 5 rats in them but there's one fat one that won't go in the spring trap but repeatedly goes in the live cage trap. I released him but sprayed blue dye marker on his tail first so I know it is him who keeps coming back and gets trapped in this cage. It's tempting to dunk the whole cage in a barrel of water because I don't have any air rifles but if it is illegal I won't then. I'm surrounded by many other farms so I can't really release him anywhere within a 10 mile radius so I guess then I'll just have to release him here again and not trap him anymore. It's a pity. unless there's an alternative? Somehow release him into a box with a fenn trap already inside?

The reason I asked if it was illegal was that anyone I ever ask would never tell me. They either said I shouldn't do it for moral reasons, or they recommended spring traps, which I already use. Believe me, if it was legal to drown them, I would do it. That's all I was interested in, not the moral question. Some people who were even against harming or killing rats full stop would chastise me for even asking the question

Either keep it as a pet or kill it if it’s giving you bother. Regarding those who’ll chastise you, just don’t tell them if/how you do it or go release it round their house and see how the moral compass changes direction.

 

[melted welly]

I was told a story years ago, about a technician in the college, who wanted to euthanize their pet cat. Vet would have charged, so he made a sealed box to put the cat in, which was connected to the car exhaust pipe, I think he even incorporated a glove, so he could continue to stroke the cat as it died!!

That’s both brilliant and tragic at the same time.

Did he take this device on to dragons den? Can just imagine Deborah’s face.

 

[roscoe erf]

Christ sake just dispatch it,
Who’s going to know !!

Got to make a crisis out of a drama

 

[grainboy]

Beware, !!
another new Tff member joins the club,
And then asks a contentious question,
Are we being monitored by the greater woke society, ??

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

If you want to kill it, dropping in water is quickest, safest and most reliable.

However, for a bit of fun, give it to the RSPCA or your local animal sanctuary.

 

[Flatlander]

I was told a story years ago, about a technician in the college, who wanted to euthanize their pet cat. Vet would have charged, so he made a sealed box to put the cat in, which was connected to the car exhaust pipe, I think he even incorporated a glove, so he could continue to stroke the cat as it died!!

Ffs he’s a regular kind hearted man. Wouldn’t want to be his elderly parent.