Reseeding technique

[Farmer Keith]

Good morning, we’ve always reseeded after spring barley by ploughing, power harrow a few times, seed then roll however last winter I got my hands on some big discs and thought I’d just disk and seed and roll this time.

Barleys off this week and we’re ready to go but we’ve used a bigger combine and I can’t see the disks getting the compaction out, our ground is stoney so using any kind of subsoiler is out of the question… are we stuck with the plough?

 

[sheepdogtrail]

what are you planting?

 

[serf]

what are you planting?

Grass seed

 

[Ducati899]

All I ever do behind any corn or maize stubble is pull shakerator through,don’t bother with plough
Edit,just seen stones

 

[davidroberts30]

Plough then rollers with shatter boards and drag it about a couple of times

Just done that last week

 

[deere 6600]

Grass seed does not need a lot to germinate drop some on the yard and it probably will grow so even a big scratch with a harrow then roll BUT it probably won’t be very level or nice to work on later but it’s getting a bit late in the year well up here anyway

 

[DairyNerd]

We have just put grass in after forage rape. Just power harrow, Einbock, roll.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Good morning, we’ve always reseeded after spring barley by ploughing, power harrow a few times, seed then roll however last winter I got my hands on some big discs and thought I’d just disk and seed and roll this time.

Barleys off this week and we’re ready to go but we’ve used a bigger combine and I can’t see the disks getting the compaction out, our ground is stoney so using any kind of subsoiler is out of the question… are we stuck with the plough?

unless theres time for a false seedbed or time for volunteers left to germinate before discing powerharrow whatever, then ploughing will get rid of thick patches of volunteer barley which can spoil areas of the new seeds.is the only reason ime, other than that working up a shallow tith on a fairly clean stubble. for the grass seed is no problem with discs power harrow tines etc works well in itself.
one more thing is just check on what herbicides were used on the barley you make sure residue wont compromise the grass or clover p[loughing does bury/stop that problem that as well .

 

[DrDunc]

Good morning, we’ve always reseeded after spring barley by ploughing, power harrow a few times, seed then roll however last winter I got my hands on some big discs and thought I’d just disk and seed and roll this time.

Barleys off this week and we’re ready to go but we’ve used a bigger combine and I can’t see the disks getting the compaction out, our ground is stoney so using any kind of subsoiler is out of the question… are we stuck with the plough?

If you do have compaction, what's wrong with using a well set up plough?

Or if the combine has left ruts(which you don't need a spade to diagnose), run down them with a two leg subsoiler just below the pan. Won't be a big number of stones for the disc driver to lift

 

[Cows 'n grass]

After cereals we use a trio, then straight in with combi then flat roll.

 

[Farmer Keith]

Plough then rollers with shatter boards and drag it about a couple of times

Just done that last week

I’ve no rollers with shatter boards here, the idea with the disks was to get away from the plough and speed the process up a little but I can’t see we’ve much choice unless we want to bounce over bumpy. We’re lucky this year as the weathers on side but there’s not often that big of a window to get the grass in.

 

[Farmer Keith]

If you do have compaction, what's wrong with using a well set up plough?

Or if the combine has left ruts(which you don't need a spade to diagnose), run down them with a two leg subsoiler just below the pan. Won't be a big number of stones for the disc driver to lift

That might work if I can find a subsoiler but by the time you’ve done that then disked it I’d be along way through with the plough.

 

[upnortheast]

After all the rain we have had this last 12 months I think a plough will do a lot of good, assuming heavy land. Light land maybe OK scratching the surface ? IMO

 

[Farmer Keith]

Lightish land. Barley has loved the wet summer here record breaking grain and loads of straw.

 

[upnortheast]

Lightish land. Barley has loved the wet summer here record breaking grain and loads of straw.

Only 40 miles away but another world

 

[In the pit]

How is the plough getting rid of compaction sure it’s creating it with a plough pan .something like a sumo trio would do everything you want in one pass ,,low disturbance legs ,,discs ,,seed dropped ins front of roller ,,jobs a good un

 

[bar718]

Only 40 miles away but another world

Within sight more like and another world. Nice sand land, easy to work soil and grow bumper crops. I would happily let some of our clay content go in exchange for some of that sand that’s for sure.

 

[Jimfandango]

If I have managed to plan enough ahead I try and make the seedbed as flat as possible before drilling corn so I can go straight on top of the clean stubble with a grass seeder following harvest, then flat roll. Not alway possible, mind, the combine often messes up plans and causes big ruts that i cannot abide bouncing over for the subsequent years after. Failing that, it's mr plough.

 

[Repeat]

Give your discs a go
I would run at a angle to your tramlines. I think it will level any ruts.

 

[crashbox]

Good morning, we’ve always reseeded after spring barley by ploughing, power harrow a few times, seed then roll however last winter I got my hands on some big discs and thought I’d just disk and seed and roll this time.

Barleys off this week and we’re ready to go but we’ve used a bigger combine and I can’t see the disks getting the compaction out, our ground is stoney so using any kind of subsoiler is out of the question… are we stuck with the plough?

Do you really have a compaction issue in the top 6-10 inches from growing a cereal?

Why not try powerharrow combi-drill on a couple of acres i.e. omit the plough.