Roll or No Roll

[Bealy]

Winter wheat just starting to stand up (gs30), not rolled at backend on heavy clay land that doesn't drought.

Would you roll it or not, and if so flat or Cambridge?

Thanks

 

[Days of thunder]

No

 

[Gedd]

Always used to cambridge roll w wheat years ago before the advent of pre em supposedly make it tiller

 

[farmerm]

Watching... I am considering doing some.

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

Not once it has reached GS30.

 

[Rust]

I'm rolling. Or it could be called punching in Hertfordshire diamonds !

 

[teslacoils]

Yeah, wants to done a good week before you'd consider a t0.

 

[Barleymow]

Rolled all mine last week

 

[Brisel]

Not once it has reached GS30.

This. Leave at least a week either side for any sprays too.

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

This. Leave at least a week either side for any sprays too.

Not after gs30 would be standard advice but has anyone ever seen any wheat damaged from rolling later?

 

[JeremyD]

Get it done with Cambridge rolls. I flattened some forward wheat last week and its already back up fighting fit.

 

[Bealy]

Not after gs30 would be standard advice but has anyone ever seen any wheat damaged from rolling later?

I rolled half our winter barley last year and it was all past gs30, it yielded 0.3t/AC more than the unrolled, that was on very light fluffy land though, with flat roller

Rolled some of our wheat on heavy land today, some of its at gs30, guess I'll see at harvest..

 

[ih1455xl]

Crack on always roll with a flat roll done makes it 4in shorter and normally 0.25t/ha more

 

[Brisel]

Not after gs30 would be standard advice but has anyone ever seen any wheat damaged from rolling later?

I’ve never taken the risk. The plant does seem to pause at stem erect before stem extension starts and the ear comes up from the crown.

 

[teslacoils]

Rolled it today. Left ten acres unrolled to see.

 

[DrWazzock]

A dilemma whether to roll freshly drilled spring crops. Always wait 24 hours for it to dry off anyway. Then
If it’s dry and knobbly and the rollers make a noise then I carry on. If the rollers go quiet and are pushing damp stuff tight together then I stop, unless it’s coarse sand that will stay open.
That’s a gut feeling and it depends on the forecast. If it’s going to rain significantly I’d leave it alone.
Looks like it could be turning into a dry time though and judicious rolling can make the difference between good establishment and next to no establishment here. I just don’t have enough drivers to go on tractor seats though at times. I always pull harrows between the tractor and roller to take my wheelings out as well.

 

[DrWazzock]

Now that my spring wheat is 25% chitted in what is now a completely dehydrated somewhat cloddy seedbed, should I roll it? I risk knocking the sprouts off the 25% that have chitted but I reckon they will die anyway as there is no moisture in close contact. It might help those yet to chit. It isn’t the whole field just the areas that were too sticky underneath to roll the day after drilling. They are more than dry enough now though!
I think I’ll just do it anyway.

 

[super4]

I am pretty sure you will be fine, just make sure that you don't spin the tractor wheels and go steady on headland turns.
If really dry I would flat roll here.

 

[Bealy]

Now that my spring wheat is 25% chitted in what is now a completely dehydrated somewhat cloddy seedbed, should I roll it? I risk knocking the sprouts off the 25% that have chitted but I reckon they will die anyway as there is no moisture in close contact. It might help those yet to chit. It isn’t the whole field just the areas that were too sticky underneath to roll the day after drilling. They are more than dry enough now though!
I think I’ll just do it anyway.

I'd roll it, although probably best not to do it right before a frost if some of its out..

 

[Brisel]

I wouldn't until you have at least 2 roots on each seed. The 25% must have moisture or it wouldn't have chitted. It's a hard call though & I'd probably toss a coin! It's hard to guess what it looks like from a brief description.