Rouge sheep/Ram

[Bones]

They are the best rams I've seen to put great shapes, back ends into cross breed lambs,

 

[Radio]

Friend of my father ,years ago saying how many different breeds he tried said even the rude request, his name for rouge de louest .

 

[Bury the Trash]

They are the best rams I've seen to put great shapes, back ends into cross breed lambs,

They are the best i've seen for adding better conformation to a maternal ewe that needs assistance in the way, better than Texel , because also they pass on a bit of higher prolificacy as well ,and quicker growing if you get the right ones. if that also needs a boost , would have to go to France to get enough choice of numbers these days maybe?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Infact ,... having thought / wrote that , it has giving me an idea .........

 

[Bones]

Dont know if I'd like any Rouge or charlie blood in my ewes,

Infact ,... having thought / wrote that , it has giving me an idea .........

 

[Bury the Trash]

Dont know if I'd like any Rouge or charlie blood in my ewes,

A bit will do positive good ime. ie. to the likes of the Llyen.

 

[johnspeehs]

I have a batch of 3/4, 7/8 bred texel ewes and might try one on them if I don't go with a BFL Had some years ago and they were always popular when I was selling with lambs at foot, piles of milk and great shapey lambs.

 

[M-J-G]

A bit will do positive good ime. ie. to the likes of the Llyen.

I've started criss-crossing Lleyn and Roussin for replacements for a similar idea.

We currently use Hampshire as a terminal, but I might look for a Char going forward as I lamb inside and I think they will suit the smaller framed ewe that I'm aiming for.

 

[Canada Farmer]

cant have been the only one to read Rogue Sheep.///

sorry cant help with orioginal topic..

Any relation to Black Sheep?

 

[andybk]

What you all have to understand is all french breeds have dedicated male and female flocks of the same breed ,you live in charoles region you only breed charollais sheep , same with rouge or blue
The rouge is predominantly a female sheep , quite open coated and soft ,and fine boned , milky and prolific x breds arnt so bad though , I have seen rouges that have as good a back end as any charollais (texel even) but they are a minority ,
Charollais is predominantly a terminal , but they have some very good female flocks that are milky and prolific , (and big)conformation not so good maybe but they provide the terminal breeders with replacements and are sought after sold by the pen full , even the rams make good money for the same reason, Terminal breeders will sell for meat quite a few or their females as lambs under the mutton rouge label in many supermarkets of the region and will have a dedicated shelf for it inc lidles , they like local produced meat.
UK has mainly (mostly) imported terminal types of charollais over the last 40-50 years so they are ,what they are and why char females get a bad press , over the last 5 years i have had a few rams from female producers , and this year for the first time had maybe 8 pure char 4t rear (successfully ) triplets that would take no top ups of milk , but they were for a personal job of getting better female lines i can turn out quicker , bigger but loose a bit on conformation , i would still use mostly terminal type rams going forward .

The rouge and blue also suffered from a type of pyramid selling scheme when they came in very similar to the valis , over priced and over hyped as terminals , which left many disappointed, had they been sold as a bfl type replacement im sure they would be more popular than they are now , they are actually both good sheep if you know their limitations one is they need to be lambed indoors .

 

[M-J-G]

Some of our Roussin X Gimmers with Lleyn lambs. I'm very pleased with how they've done despite how tight grass has been.
The ewes have put on condition and appear to have milked well.
Im considering a Char over them as a terminal

 

[Northern territory]

Is it me or do sheep seem to do better in dry weather with not much grass. Less worm pressure maybe?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Is it me or do sheep seem to do better in dry weather with not much grass. Less worm pressure maybe?

no its not you, its a fact, sheep are happier / do better in /on the dry.

 

[M-J-G]

Is it me or do sheep seem to do better in dry weather with not much grass. Less worm pressure maybe?

Our sheep have never had less grass in front of them than they have this year and have probably never done better despite having more twins than normal.

 

[Northern territory]

Our sheep have never had less grass in front of them than they have this year and have probably never done better despite having more twins than normal.

Doesn’t it fly in the face of the regen ag theory a bit?

 

[neilo]

Doesn’t it fly in the face of the regen ag theory a bit?

Not really. Regen ag is about growing the soil, not the animals. Animal performance will always be better with younger, more digestible grass.

(tin hat on)

 

[Northern territory]

Not really. Regen ag is about growing the soil, not the animals. Animal performance will always be better with younger, more digestible grass.

(tin hat on)

Thought longer grass was the way

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Not really. Regen ag is about growing the soil, not the animals. Animal performance will always be better with younger, more digestible grass.

(tin hat on)

There's a saying, sheep do best when they eat the grass that grew the night before

 

[Anymulewilldo]

There's a saying, sheep do best when they eat the grass that grew the night before

Yep, and when you think about it if it’s dry the sugars will be much more concentrated in that 1/2 inch of fresh grass than when it’s just green soup

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Collected this boy yesterday