Roundup and sheep grazing

[gone up the hill]

Yes spring barley....it was well mucked at the back end, it won’t need any nitram till it shows its head will it?

Yep get it in the seed bed, key is to get it away as fast as possible.

The muck will have 10/15 units of N acre but you wont get much benefit from that this spring.

 

[gone up the hill]

What variety?

 

[cattleman123]

You need to take them out until any poisonous weeds have died and become unpalatable basically. You don't want to be grazing any of the sprayed foliage for at least 48 hours I would think so the stuff has a chance to work and translocate down to the roots. I'd keep them away a week if it was me.

Don't spray at all...

 

[Northeastfarmer]

What variety?

Don’t ask me that....I haven’t got a clue about arable....will ask a few merchants what is the best for my land

 

[gone up the hill]

Don’t ask me that....I haven’t got a clue about arable....will ask a few merchants what is the best for my land

Propino is the best one and suits most land across the UK.

Yields well and plenty of straw.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Propino is the best one and suits most land across the UK.

Yields well and plenty of straw.

Cheers...I will ask for a price on that

 

[gone up the hill]

Laureate is another good one apparently thou I don't know much about it as its a new variety.

 

[gone up the hill]

Cheers...I will ask for a price on that

You will baulk at the price.

Be cheaper to find someone local with a good sample of feed barley and somehow it finds itself drilled untreated in the field

 

[Northeastfarmer]

You will baulk at the price.

Be cheaper to find someone local with a good sample of feed barley and somehow it finds itself drilled untreated in the field

Haha oh that sounds a better option for me...

 

[gone up the hill]

Not sure how much an issue it is with Spring Barley but one thing to be wary about is Wireworm if drilling corn into ground where the previous crop was grass.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Not sure how much an issue it is with Spring Barley but one thing to be wary about is Wireworm if drilling corn into ground where the previous crop was grass.

And what can be done about wire wrom?

 

[gone up the hill]

And what can be done about wire wrom?

Ideally plant a break crop like Kale between grass and corn.

I think you can spray against it ( not sure mind ) but rolling the seedbed after drilling helps.

Other than this I don't think there is much you can do.

Can be a big problem in Winter Wheat sometimes if drilled after grass

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Ideally plant a break crop like Kale between grass and corn.

I think you can spray against it ( not sure mind ) but rolling the seedbed after drilling helps.

Other than this I don't think there is much you can do.

Can be a big problem in Winter Wheat sometimes if drilled after grass

Agronomist is coming in the morning so will ask him his thoughts

 

[sherg]

Agronomist is coming in the morning so will ask him his thoughts

I don't know if there's much that can be done for wireworm now the agronomist will know most of the good stuff has been banned now, I presume you'll feed it yourself? spring barley can yield well if its pushed, we grew laureate last year and it did well for the season

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I don't know if there's much that can be done for wireworm now the agronomist will know most of the good stuff has been banned now, I presume you'll feed it yourself? spring barley can yield well if its pushed, we grew laureate last year and it did well for the season

Yes I will feed the barley...will need that and a lot more....it’ll get well fed

 

[neilo]

Propino is the best one and suits most land across the UK.

Yields well and plenty of straw.

Until the heads fall off just before combining......

 

[neilo]

Those glyphosate products that have a label recc for grazing after (you are using one of those aren’t you?), nomally have a 5 day grazing withdrawal iirc, soa week will be about right.
No glyphosate will work if it’s got no leaf to take it in though. If you’re grazing it still, do you really have enough leaf area for spraying to be effective? I thought it was supposed to hard up North....

As far as wireworm is concerned, there’s bugger all you can do to control them if they’re present these days, other than roll to the point where you will be effecting the crop. A brassica break will start to starve them out, but it’ll need 2-3 years of that to starve them into submission.
Will you be ploughing the sprayed out turf under? If so, the wireworm will likely be quite happy eating that root mass this year, then come back to catch you out next year.

 

[hendrebc]

I think you will need a seed bag label (and possibly an invoice for it?) to show farm assurance that you used 'proper' seed stupid rule but better tell you in case you do use all feed barley and land yourself in trouble over it
I wouldn't worry too much about variety either it's unlikely you will know what variety the feed barley you use to top up the small amount of bought in stuff is anyway

 

[Kevtherev]

Prices for spring barley are fairly high.
Westminster being a good allround variety.
Not much you can do if wireworm are present.
Have you tested for PH?

 

[Bob the beef]

If there i are no real weed issues, why are you spraying it off?
I would just turn it over nicely with the plough, get the use of any organic matter left after the sheep. Roundup just dries the whole sod up and probably leave you with a leatherjacket problem.
Different story if there are weed issues though